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As TikTok grows, so does suspicion

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Re: As TikTok grows, so does suspicion

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Post by another_story »

pastacacioepepe wrote: post #285
option wrote: post #264

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you conveniently left Russia out of your “acting outside of their borders” discussion… In case you haven’t noticed they started a bloody war in Ukraine this year.

The USA have ~800 military bases over 85 different countries. Russia has 21, all in neighbouring countries. China has only 1 foreign base in Djibouti. Who's acting outside of their borders again?

I don't care about the US in this instance, but how many of those bases are wanted by the countries they are in? In most cases it seems US citizens are subsidizing the defense of many other countries.

Re: As TikTok grows, so does suspicion

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Post by bigcat12345678 »

starfallg wrote: post #274
option wrote: post #264

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you conveniently left Russia out of your “acting outside of their borders” discussion… In case you haven’t noticed they started a bloody war in Ukraine this year.

Or CCP troops engaging in bloody border skirmishes with shovels.

What is this?

Re: As TikTok grows, so does suspicion

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Post by calsy »

illuminati1911 wrote: post #309
Al-Khwarizmi wrote: post #253

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You would be surprised if you polled non-US, non-China citizens about what country is the biggest geopolitical threat to the world. Wait, I don't even need to talk in conditionals. I Googled it and apparently it has indeed been done several times, and the results are what I expected. https://brilliantmaps.com/threat-to-peace/ https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/05/us-threat-demo...

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Yeah westerners have so much access to information. I mean look at all those informed opinions about WMDs in Iraq. The US begged countries like Finland, Sweden and Australia to join them in their middle east occupation.

Australia has assisted US in most all major conflicts they have been involved in since WW2. Being a small democratic nation, the US is our most powerful ally and we have invested in that relationship for close to a century. We didn't just come knocking on the door yesterday 'begging' for help.

Re: As TikTok grows, so does suspicion

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Post by fabianhjr »

illuminati1911 wrote: post #311
fabianhjr wrote: post #262

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Russian Federation != Union of Soviet Socialist Republics More so: Russian Federation != Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic

USA during Reagan in 1980s != USA today

More like "US during British Colonial Times" != "USA Today", for starters USA during Reagan and USA today have the same constitution and the same governmental system even if specific laws and lawmakers have changed

Re: As TikTok grows, so does suspicion

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Post by another_story »

trasz wrote: post #115
mathverse wrote: post #57

I am really annoyed at how we (EU) and the US treat chinese companies and citizens. We (europeans and americans) cant do really anything in China, we have essentially no rights and cant really conduct business. Unlike chinese who are pretty much granted all of that when they want to immigrate or conduct business in EU/US.

>We (europeans and americans) cant do really anything in China We - Europeans and pretty much anyone who's not an American - can't do really anything in US.

Pretty sure anyone can form a US company, citizen or not. You definitely cannot form one in China without Party involvement, and depending on the size, even needing to have a full time Party member on staff.

Re: As TikTok grows, so does suspicion

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Post by fabianhjr »

rafaelm wrote: post #282
ciroduran wrote: post #265

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I lived there 29 years of my life, I lived the dictatorship, and I still got family and friends. Far from sarcastic.

I'm currently living the dictatorship in Venezuela. Ask me if you think Ciro's opinion is not valid, for whatever reason. (Don't know him btw. Epale Ciro!)

¿Crees que solo hay dictaduras bajo gobiernos anti-capitalistas o es algo en donde por ejemplo Qatar (o Reino Unido) siendo monarquías constitucionales podrían superar en autoritarismo?

Re: As TikTok grows, so does suspicion

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Post by pyuser583 »

bko wrote: post #259
shikoba wrote: post #217

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It is because China is the enemy. When it's Facebook or Google strangely it's never an issue. Moral is always a facade for international economic war. And some people fall for it.

I think there's a difference between a private company having my data and an adversarial government. The company has a clear motive, profit. They're lawful neutral. An adversarial government may be chaotic evil. I don't know why this isn't obvious. Wasn't everyone freaking out just a few years ago when Russian government was manipulating people with political groups on Facebook? And that's even with Facebook's earnes…

According to my very old Players Handbook, leaders of tyrannical states are lawful evil.

“Lawful” or “chaotic” relate to whether the character embrace order.

Re: As TikTok grows, so does suspicion

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Post by jdsleppy »

lmm wrote: post #310
wyre wrote: post #305

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Have you used tiktok? There’s nothing about it that isn’t addictive. Facebook, Twitter, and HN hold a different behavior because they are used for asynchronous communication between general users while TT is full of parasocial relationships between the created and fans. FB and Twitter also offer more utility than TikTok, an example being small businesses using Facebook and Twitter instead of a website.

> Have you used tiktok? There’s nothing about it that isn’t addictive. I tried it for a week or so, found it not very interesting and gave up.

I noticed that the webapp doesn't show personalized content (or my privacy extensions do a wonderful job). You have to use the mobile app to see the full power.

Re: As TikTok grows, so does suspicion

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Post by option »

pastacacioepepe wrote: post #285
option wrote: post #264

Earlier quoted context omitted.

you conveniently left Russia out of your “acting outside of their borders” discussion… In case you haven’t noticed they started a bloody war in Ukraine this year.

The USA have ~800 military bases over 85 different countries. Russia has 21, all in neighbouring countries. China has only 1 foreign base in Djibouti. Who's acting outside of their borders again?

ask Ukrainians whether they want US bases and whether they want to be part of Nato

Re: As TikTok grows, so does suspicion

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Post by [deleted] »

fabianhjr wrote: post #344
illuminati1911 wrote: post #311

Earlier quoted context omitted.

USA during Reagan in 1980s != USA today

More like "US during British Colonial Times" != "USA Today", for starters USA during Reagan and USA today have the same constitution and the same governmental system even if specific laws and lawmakers have changed

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