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Re: System76 Lemur Pro Linux laptop with 14 hours of battery life

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Post by jmondi »

dahfizz wrote: post #282
throwawaymaths wrote: post #241

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I went from a lemur 14" to a Mac m1 and the following things broke: - dual monitors were detected only as one monitor, and we're mirrored. - USB mouse (I disprefer Bluetooth mice) would have to be unplugged and plugged back in if the laptop went to sleep - no home/end keys - I had installed all of my corporate 2FA stuff on safari and safari would randomly drop me from Google meets. No other browser had this issue. Th…

> - no home/end keys > The ctl/option madness definitely tanked my productivity I am forced to work on a Mac at my job. Buying a Mac-layout mechanical keyboard is a must. It has home/end and it has control in the right place (why on earth would apple put fn in the bottom left??).

I wonder the same thing, but opposite. Why in the world would windows/linux put their main modifier key all the way in the bottom left? On every keyboard (I have a Moonlander, a Mode65, and Mode80, I map the keys to match a default Mac. So it is like ctrl -> alt -> super.

Re: System76 Lemur Pro Linux laptop with 14 hours of battery life

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Post by cpursley »

cpursley wrote: post #137
dijit wrote: post #132

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Ryzen is beating intel quite hard for performance/watt (with the associated heat trade-off too). These are very core to the value proposition of laptops, so it makes sense and directly translates to longer battery and reduced fan noise.

This. Heat and battery life.

Bizarro to get downvoted.

Do people like scorching hot laptops that need constant recharging?

Re: System76 Lemur Pro Linux laptop with 14 hours of battery life

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Post by klibertp »

Gareth321 wrote: post #370
klibertp wrote: post #317

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> I tried to install Radarr - a very popular home media server app. The instruction manual required is absurd: https://wiki.servarr.com/radarr/installation That's because it's written by developers. Devs are generally really poor at explaining things and they rarely have enough empathy to even notice that "normal people" might not necessarily understand (or care) as to why would they be better off compiling software…

>That's because it's written by developers. I understand this is the fault of the developer, but that's not my problem. I'm a consumer and I want my application to install in under 60 seconds like it does in Windows. Too many developers rely on the CLI in Linux, and this means that, too often, my Linux experience is much worse than my Windows experience. I don't care who is to blame. It just is. >Though it's probably…

> I don't care who is to blame. It just is.

You already know the answer to this: if you don't like it, you should fix it! It's open source! In other words, the all too familiar blaming the victim.

It's silly, yes. Especially since there are at least 5 ways of making self-contained, one-file or single-directory distributions of software under Linux. Discord comes as a zip file that you need to unpack, then click on the "Discord" executable - and done. Joplin (my note-taking app choice) uses AppImage, where you download a single file and run it, done. It can be done. Yet, it's not done in the vast majority of cases.

You're not interested in reasons why it's not being widely adopted, so let me just talk to myself. Personally, I'd blame package managers. They are too good, too convenient, to the point that not using them is a real hassle. Those of us who remember the dependency hell won't give up package managers until death do us part. Yet, there are too many of them. Having 3 different pkg managers on a single system (deb, snap, flatpak) is sheer madness.

There's also obsession with dynamic linking combined with reluctance to bundle the required libraries with an app (because updates! we would need to actually track development and test new versions of libraries as they appear, who has time for that?!), and a few other problems. As a whole it's a societal problem that won't go away in the foreseeable future. It's also... not a bad problem to have. It guarantees a heavy push-back against app stores, at least.

Re: System76 Lemur Pro Linux laptop with 14 hours of battery life

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Post by ActorNightly »

fio_ini wrote: post #151
ActorNightly wrote: post #134

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Macs are not comparable to a full Linux system. Also, when the battery dies, you can replace it easily. Any modern laptop is still going to have battery degradation. This is a much better investment for those that can't afford to replace laptops every 3-4 years.

As someone (myself) that uses linux almost exclusively, what is that supposed to mean "that it's not comparable?" It's 100% comparable. And if you ask me ubuntu gnome desktop is starting to look exactly like a mac ui. Another comparison is that there's no support for my "full Linux system" when shit hits the fan and the OS deadlocks except for myself. Linux has 100% bricked on me after upgrades/updates. Anyway overal…

Just because both Mac and Linux are "unix based" with terminals doesn't mean that they allow for the same use cases. The OS are structured very differently.

Linux is core os on top of which you can use a UI of your choosing. If you have something like Ubuntu server installed with just a terminal interface, that system will most likely never lock up from user input unless all the stuff in the background becomes resource constrained.

MacOS has the UI, the kernel, and the programs all tightly coupled together to where you have zero choice on a lot of things in the OS.

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Post by asoneth »

minimaul wrote: post #86
asoneth wrote: post #84

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> OOI, why System76 for those? Not the original poster, but +$200 would be reasonable for me. The last computer I built was twenty years ago so I would have to do at least a couple hours of research to find out what sites and stores are reliable, read component reviews, etc. None of that information is useful or interesting to me beyond getting the computer up and running. And there's a slight chance that despite my…

Hm, that's fair enough for a more complex desktop build in my opinion (except for the unfortunate fact that you often end up with paying a premium for worse hardware that way), but in this case the NUC is an off-the-shelf standard barebone that is widely available - the only thing you are adding is RAM and storage. You can do both of those (for reasonable prices) via Crucial's part picker, for instance - and in fact…

umanwizard already said what I would have said, but I will add a few points:

First, you may be underestimating the value of your expertise and the investment required.

Second, I'm glad we're not gatekeeping Linux as much as we used to.

Third, as I get older I find computer hardware less interesting. Just because someone likes to make music doesn't necessarily mean they like to make instruments.

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Post by throwmisinfo388 »

psanford wrote: post #209

Man I wish System76 or Framework or someone else could make hardware as nice as Apple. I just ordered an M2 Air which I will be primarily running Linux on. I'm replacing my Lenovo T480s (which was a great laptop) because I want _nice_ hardware. There are just so few options that even come close to competing with Apple.

Do you know anything about the 2022 HP Elitebooks? The 800 and 1040 series look really good. 16:10 screens.

https://www.hp.com/us-en/laptops/business/elitebooks.html

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