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The Crime That Killed Shinzo Abe
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#232Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not about "licenses to exist", but access to the press clubs (kisha clubs). Basically, if the government doesn't like what you print/say, you get frozen out the clubs and hence out of all government news. https://freespeechdebate.com/discuss/an-impregnable-fortress...
Kinda like how the threat of revoking the press's access to the White House keeps them toeing the establishment line https://www.cjr.org/the_media_today/white-house-press-passes...
That worked well. /s
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#233This is a lot of words for the basic conjecture that he was killed by/for being a moonie. The problem with this reporting is that it takes the killer's supposed words at face value. This is a big risk, especially as at this stage we are not entirely certain that those words are accurate. Now, this may eventually appear to be the case, but the level of certainty presented in this article is unfounded.
This article is within the more general context, but we have the words of the assassin, discussion by the police of not wanting to discuss the church specifically for the “obvious” reasons, the mother of the assassin being identified by the church as being a member… “it happened because of X” is maybe very strong but lots of the story does align and is being corroborated.
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#234As an incidental remark: I find it remarkable that on the surface I now know of three G7 countries / liberal democracies where the PM/President is the (grand)son of a PM/President himself. Bush Sr - Bush Jr Pierre Trudeau - Justin Trudeau Nobusuke Kishi - (Shintaro Abe; FM) - Shinzo Abe [Honorary mention: France with "Le Pen" both father & daughter made it to the second round in the presidential elections (2002; 2017…
It's especially crazy considering who Nobusuke Kishi was, and the things he did.
Known for his exploitative rule of the Japanese puppet state of Manchukuo in Northeast China in the 1930s, Kishi was nicknamed the "Monster of the Shōwa era" (昭和の妖怪; Shōwa no yōkai).[1] Kishi later served in the wartime cabinet of Prime Minister Hideki Tōjō as Minister of Commerce and Vice Minister of Munitions,[2] and co-signed the declaration of war against the United States on December 7, 1941.
After World War II, Kishi was imprisoned for three years as a suspected Class A war criminal. However, the U.S. government did not charge, try, or convict him, and eventually released him as they considered Kishi to be the best man to lead a post-war Japan in a pro-American direction. With U.S. support, he went on to consolidate the Japanese conservative camp against perceived threats from the Japan Socialist Party in the 1950s. Kishi was instrumental in the formation of the powerful Liberal Democratic Party (LDP) through a merger of smaller conservative parties in 1955, and thus is credited with being a key player in the initiation of the "1955 System", the extended period during which the LDP was the overwhelmingly dominant political party in Japan.[3][4]
As prime minister, Kishi's mishandling of the 1960 revision of the U.S.-Japan Security Treaty led to the massive 1960 Anpo protests, which were the largest protests in Japan's modern history and which forced him to resign in disgrace.
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#235The Moonies, often represented in America by some unfortunate Korean boy or girl, beg for money at American universities in exchange for food and lodging. It's essentially human trafficking and indentured servitude because they're trapped in a foreign country. So, if see someone who doesn't speak English who shoved a photo montage flip book clipboard of deprivation in front of you, think twice before giving them mone…
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#236Japanese people I know are adamant that Abe had no ties or did ever voice support for the Moon sect, ever. I am now wondering if Abe had kept it secret and the shooter somehow found out.
If the cult ruined his life and he took it out on the first politician he could somehow link to them, the problem is not whether such politician really had such relationship, but the fact that such idea was credible in the first place. Are cults in Japan tolerated a bit too much, leaving them free to ruin's people lives? Are politicians just sitting by, or even enabling such cults? Those should be the questions peopl…
Probably cults freedoms are tolerated for votes
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#237That’s some top level conspiracy theory. First, Who shoots someone just because of “connections”? Why not go after the church itself? Further; this person got two shots off over a 4-5 second period. Just walked up to one of the most powerful politicians in Japan. I personally feel there’s something more to this — gross negligence or a conspiracy idk. The communist opposition was actively calling for his overthrow by…
> Why not go after the church itself?
Allegedly, the shooter's original target was an official of the church.
> I personally feel there’s something more to this — gross negligence or a conspiracy idk.
This is an official who has been out of power for a while now, and is known to be in declining health, at a local event, in a country where political violence has been low in recent years, and a country with exceptionally low crime rates. You could totally imagine security being lax and complacent given the circumstances.
Re: The Crime That Killed Shinzo Abe
#238As an incidental remark: I find it remarkable that on the surface I now know of three G7 countries / liberal democracies where the PM/President is the (grand)son of a PM/President himself. Bush Sr - Bush Jr Pierre Trudeau - Justin Trudeau Nobusuke Kishi - (Shintaro Abe; FM) - Shinzo Abe [Honorary mention: France with "Le Pen" both father & daughter made it to the second round in the presidential elections (2002; 2017…
Not a G7, but India notably is the most populous democracy in the world: Rajiv Gandhi, 6th Prime Minister of India, son of Indira Gandhi who was 3rd Prime Minister of India, who herself was daughter of Jawaharlal Nehru, the 1st prime minister of India.
basically a glorified monarchy, then, since rich families have access to better ads/PR around their candidacies
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#239Earlier quoted context omitted.
I agree with you on "replace it with any religion" but I don't find it bigotry necessarily - I am averse to any and all religious influence on anything, and I'm happy to see it brought up to attention and awareness everywhere. As to the frequent Venn diagram overlap of locally predominant religion with corresponding country / nationality / ethnicity / etc, while that frequently the case, I agree we should focus on th…
> think twice before giving them money because you'd be supporting the late George Bush Sr's 2nd-favorite cult. > They also own The Washington Times and United Press International (UPI). > And True World Foods, which runs a major portion of the sushi trade in the US. > Numerous other innocent-sounding organizations in many, many sports, interest groups, and industries. Like if someone wrote any of that about Jews, th…
Fair.
One of the tricky things about that is that "jew" is both a religion (presumed to be a "by choice affiliation") as well as ethnicity (less "by choice" affiliation), as well as culture and sometimes nationality.
If I say "people who believe in loch Ness are gullible", that's viewed as ok in most places. Saying "Germans are gullible" is less likely to be true or acceptable. Saying "Christians are gullible" will depend on location - even most freedom of speech democracies will have blasphemy laws and cultures where they protect belief in Jesus in ways they do not protect belief in Yeti (I clearly have an opinion on that :).
Saying "Jews are gullible" will probably be viewed as anti semitic due to history, pattern, likelihood, as well as the confluence of what the word itself means. "Jew" is such a massive Venn diagram.
FWIW Ultimately I believe (and I'm sometimes lonely in that) that intent rather than keywords are important. I chose to gave benefit of doubt to poster (perhaps mistakenly).
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#240Earlier quoted context omitted.
I hope no one misses the implied /s regarding CSM. The Christian Science Monitor is a model of great reporting in a time when few models exist. I am saddened when someone downplays a CSM report as biased because the listener assumes some form of Christian fundamentalism.
So, I'm not alone in wondering if they should be treated like bible thumpers, or not. Good to know. Also good to know they aren't bible thumpers, and just happen to be 'Christians' monitoring science, as per the name implies.
The name should be read as The Monitor, owned by Christian Scientists. Christian Scientist is a specific sect. Monitor here is like any other newspaper name, it could be The Christian Science Times, or Christian Science Observer