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Re: Help me identify possible tracking device found in my car

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Post by tinus_hn »

kersplody wrote: post #153
burrows wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, people are just imagining the NSA led global surveillance apparatus.

Nah, the NSA doesn't need to bug your car. All cars after 2016 or so come pre bugged with an OnStar/StarLink/BMW Assist Remote/etc Telemetry System continuously sending data over 3G or LTE. Conveniently, the manufacturers already sell this data in an "anonymised" form. ( cough Otonomo cough Wejo). Private companies are so much scarier than the NSA when it comes to privacy -- you have none -- your life's data is to be…

Or if you are making a phone call or transferring data over the internet. They might not be bugging just any guy but they track everything they can.

Re: Help me identify possible tracking device found in my car

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Post by midnitewarrior »

blakespot wrote: post #136
jowsie wrote: post #24

If you google KARR Honda or KARR Alarm you should find some better information. I found identical looking devices by using Google Lens and focusing on just the black box with the green button. https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2016/08/never-buy-car-alar... https://www.reddit.com/r/whatisit/comments/rnr48t/found_unde... https://www.reddit.com/r/subaru/comments/7m9dv9/mysterious_b...

KARR - Knight Automated Roving Robot

I prefer K.I.T.T.

Re: Help me identify possible tracking device found in my car

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Post by sakurashy »

honkdaddy wrote: post #86
jowsie wrote: post #24

If you google KARR Honda or KARR Alarm you should find some better information. I found identical looking devices by using Google Lens and focusing on just the black box with the green button. https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2016/08/never-buy-car-alar... https://www.reddit.com/r/whatisit/comments/rnr48t/found_unde... https://www.reddit.com/r/subaru/comments/7m9dv9/mysterious_b...

It's amusing to me that someone would go through the effort of deconstructing it, writing a gist, and posting it on HN before literally just googling "device under steering wheel" and seeing other people posting about the _exact_ same device. People tend to imagine their lives are more interesting and worthy of surveillance than they really are :)

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Re: Help me identify possible tracking device found in my car

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Post by thinkingemote »

burrows wrote: post #94
honkdaddy wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's amusing to me that someone would go through the effort of deconstructing it, writing a gist, and posting it on HN before literally just googling "device under steering wheel" and seeing other people posting about the _exact_ same device. People tend to imagine their lives are more interesting and worthy of surveillance than they really are :)

Yeah, people are just imagining the NSA led global surveillance apparatus.

They are imagining being part or the target of a conspiracy. It's a paranoid quirk of American politics, all sides see scheming and conspiracy.

Catholics, Communists, Woke subversives, or white supremacists. If you are part of American politics there is a mainstream conspiracy theory that your group has.

Re: Help me identify possible tracking device found in my car

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Post by 867-5309 »

jll29 wrote: post #152
Barrin92 wrote: post #99

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the NSA is certainly real, the likelihood of them bugging your car unless you're smuggling nuclear secrets is rather low the three letter agencies don't care about people who play video games and watch cat videos all day

depends what's embedded in your cat videos.

sublimiaow message? stegaMOGraph?

Re: Help me identify possible tracking device found in my car

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Post by Gordonjcp »

toast0 wrote: post #159
fortran77 wrote: post #154

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This is the most accurate answer in this thread. Toyota dealers in Northern California did this to me twice on new cars. (A third party autosound guy removed it and fixed the harness for me) Even though we always pay in full for cars, the dealer has you talk to the finance guy who will try to sell you useless addons like undercoating and an “alarm system” which has already been butchered into the car by the dealer. (…

They also like to install brake light flashers, and pull them out if you object. So annoying.

"Brake light flashers"?

Re: Help me identify possible tracking device found in my car

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Post by mdp2021 »

thrdbndndn wrote: post #84

Warning: all photos shot by Apple iPhone SE in your gist have GPS info. So.. yeah, this post may expose your location better than this device.

Hint that suggests a "world" where people keep the GPS connection on as standard practice. Which is perplexing on so many levels, not last that the GPS is one of the most energy costly services I know - consideration relevant between impact on battery life and general "keeping the lights on and the engine running when away".

Re: Help me identify possible tracking device found in my car

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Post by buran77 »

incompatible wrote: post #168
worker767424 wrote: post #150

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Now they just ask your cell phone company.

I'm guessing that nearly everybody knows this by now, and for those occasional times when burying a body or whatever, would leave the phone at home.

Joke aside, your car probably has a mobile connection by now and even the dealer/manufacturer has access to the data which means authorities don't need more than to purchase it. So you might want to leave the car at home too. And the smartwatch.

Re: Help me identify possible tracking device found in my car

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Post by incompatible »

buran77 wrote: post #178
incompatible wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm guessing that nearly everybody knows this by now, and for those occasional times when burying a body or whatever, would leave the phone at home.

Joke aside, your car probably has a mobile connection by now and even the dealer/manufacturer has access to the data which means authorities don't need more than to purchase it. So you might want to leave the car at home too. And the smartwatch.

Actually, I don't have a car. Is there any good way to check for trackers embedded into shoe soles?

Re: Help me identify possible tracking device found in my car

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Post by nephanth »

kersplody wrote: post #153
burrows wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, people are just imagining the NSA led global surveillance apparatus.

Nah, the NSA doesn't need to bug your car. All cars after 2016 or so come pre bugged with an OnStar/StarLink/BMW Assist Remote/etc Telemetry System continuously sending data over 3G or LTE. Conveniently, the manufacturers already sell this data in an "anonymised" form. ( cough Otonomo cough Wejo). Private companies are so much scarier than the NSA when it comes to privacy -- you have none -- your life's data is to be…

I wonder how those telemetry systems work for EU customers. Cause that sounds pretty much illegal under GDPR (non-consented tracking, data stored overseas...)
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