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The world needs a non-profit search engine

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Re: The world needs a non-profit search engine

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I use duck duck go. Recently someone showed me their screen where they were using google to do a search. I was absolutely aghast. The last time I used google when you searched for something you saw a simple text list of sites (which is how DDG still works). Instead the google results were… a disaster. You had to scroll through some much garbage before finding actual search results - a list of sites. It was like googl…

ads. SEO. i have a guy in digital marketing tell me that his friend does SEO and he does wonders with obscure keywords and shit. that friend is a freelancer and earns a good payday. When you want to insert your brand in every fucking imaginative keyword as opposed to people "searching for something", why does internet advertising revolve around everyone assuming every person googling something "WANTS TO BUY SOMETHING…

>why does internet advertising revolve around everyone assuming every person googling something "WANTS TO BUY SOMETHING"?

Because people googling SOMETHING are more likely to buy SOMETHING than people googling SOMETHING_ELSE.

Re: The world needs a non-profit search engine

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I totally like the idea but I dare to doubt that this would solve the SEO problem. Website owners who are participating in those notorious affiliate programs or earn money with ads will still use the search engine to drag people onto their generic websites, using methodolgies to fit the search engines ranking mechanisms, no matter if they are public or not. SEO and all it's results seem to be immanent to the system.

You can have a semi-manual system, with user input. So websites filled with SEO get manually flagged by users. Of course, you need to trust your users as well... this can be done with a Web of Trust-style reputation system: users endorse each other, and you can build a reputation graph/tree that traces reputation and easily cull bad subtrees. If this endorsement system conserves reputation (you give a fraction of you…

why can't all the users that are being paid to promote spam endorse each other? And won't distributed trust systems just make some people "trust billionaires" and others "trust impoverished" though no fault of their own? If everyone trusts Oprah she'll have the types of same power people complain about billionaires people now. Basically influence. Also, anyone who's close to her gets the blessing of her influence where as if you're far removed you get nothing. Seems like the just reproducing the exact thing so many are trying to counter.

Re: The world needs a non-profit search engine

#76

> Instead of looking at how long people spend on a site, we would encourage users to give explicit feedback on rankings and use this to improve our ranking system. While they're not wrong about how the way Google determines ranking has its issues, this way has its own set of problems. If you explicitly use user ratings as part of your rankings in some way, people can punish sites they don't like, ala review bombing o…

Also let's not forget Reddit. There's a lot of bullshit on top.

Re: The world needs a non-profit search engine

#77
I don't know what the world needs but I need a personalized search engine. I would like to filter out anything to do with sports. I would like filter articles that contain marketing jargon and technobabble. I would like to filter articles written below high school grade level. And so on.

Re: The world needs a non-profit search engine

#80

I use duck duck go. Recently someone showed me their screen where they were using google to do a search. I was absolutely aghast. The last time I used google when you searched for something you saw a simple text list of sites (which is how DDG still works). Instead the google results were… a disaster. You had to scroll through some much garbage before finding actual search results - a list of sites. It was like googl…

> I use duck duck go. You use a proxied Bing. If you want a proxied Google (what I prefer), you can use https://startpage.com

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