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Re: Ruby Shield: Shopify donates $1M to stewards of rubygems, bundler

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Yeah, it's been hard to find Ruby/Rails devs for... as long as I can remember. 2015 at least. Not sure if it's become harder. What about hiring experienced devs and simply giving them an intro Ruby + Rails course? (which could be as simple as say, giving them 2-3 weeks to go through some self-directed learning) I think companies often do this badly: they hire non-Ruby devs and expect them to learn by osmosis, which u…

> I'm implementing a curriculum like that now in my current role. Will you be making this public or internal it will remain?

Well, now that I read my post, "curriculum" probably makes it sound more grand than it is. With the range of Ruby learning options out there we're definitely not planning on reinventing any wheels.

Part 1 - We've gone through "The Well-Grounded Rubyist" and listed most chapters as "learn" and some as "skim". The "skim" chapters are things that are not generally useful for Rails development e.g. explicit threading, file I/O, etc. The idea is that the student should simply know those things are there in case they're needed later.

Part 2 - Same thing with the Rails guide from "Learn Enough To Be Dangerous" from Michael Hartl. We like this option because there's the book and then there are screencasts. So students can pick one or the other to suit their learning style.

Part 3 - Small standalone project of the student's choosing, we have a few suggestions if they don't have any. Something they can finish in a few days.

It is mildly "innovative" in the sense that, for whatever reason, most companies don't seem to do this. Companies I've worked at in the past have had generous onboarding periods, and have given devs lists of learning resources, but generally expect the devs to learn as they go. Which is fundamentally sort of broken, because "learning as they go" typically involves "learning by osmosis from an existing fragile production app that has a lot of tech debt."

Re: Ruby Shield: Shopify donates $1M to stewards of rubygems, bundler

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It's a very high salary for the geographic market we're in, and we are far too small a company to compete directly with FAANGs. Even having worked for west coast companies, I've never gotten $200k base salary- adjusted for my region, most pay in the $150-175 range, and I've got quite a few years under my belt.

If you can’t hire I question if it is high for your area. I am sympathetic to your position but the market seems to have spoken.

If that's the case, then ruby developers are severely overpaid for the quality and quantity of code they produce.

Of course, I don't believe that's the case, but rather that there is a shortage based on it being a relatively unpopular technology compared to java / .net / node / etc.

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