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Re: Rogers Canada, please fix the damn internet in Canada

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India High Speed Internet 4G - 2GB per day - Rs. 450 per month ($ 6.50) + plus unlimited nation-wide calling.Everything in Canada is an oligopoly.

One can say that India just has a low per capita income. Look at Sweden and Finland then; it's not about (just) per capita income.

Re: Rogers Canada, please fix the damn internet in Canada

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[edit] Fixed reference to Rogers. Not to mention… Rogers is actively working to secure further control over the Canadian market through its acquisition of Shaw. Related to this outage though, I found it weird that my cell had no bars during the outage. Why would the “last mile”be out when it seems like the problem was their core backbone network that was at issue? I am very curious to read the post mortem on this one…

” Shaw is actively working to secure further control over the Canadian market through its acquisition of Shaw.”

Wow, modern corporate finance really keeps surprising me

Re: Rogers Canada, please fix the damn internet in Canada

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post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

that's because your teksavvy service is over Shaw or Telus lines. This outage was out of Teksavvy's hands: if you were in their Rogers-based territory on DOCSIS, you were down with the ship.

I have Teksavvy via Cogeco and had no issues (obviously). I just discovered Rogers owns 41% of their shares though :|

don't worry, as with Shaw and Rogers, Audet family controls the votes through supervoting shares. This isn't a democracy.

Rogers only has 13% control of Cogeco itself: https://crtc.gc.ca/ownership/eng/cht043.pdf

Re: Rogers Canada, please fix the damn internet in Canada

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post #31

I just can't believe how much relies on just one company Rogers seemingly every debit machine in Canada, anything to do with passports, many doctor's offices. A similar situation occurred just last April (2021). https://mobilesyrup.com/2021/04/20/nationwide-rogers-outage-...

Canadian ISPs definitely have a stronghold on the infrastructure. Can't call it a "monopoly" because there are three of them, but a common name given is "Robelus" which is portmanteau of Rogers/Bell/Telus. I don't have the numbers on how much they spend to lobby the government every year, but I imagine its a staggering sum.

The word you are looking for is “oligopoly”. This is when a small set of firms has a monopoly on something.

Re: Rogers Canada, please fix the damn internet in Canada

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post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have Teksavvy via Cogeco and had no issues (obviously). I just discovered Rogers owns 41% of their shares though :|

don't worry, as with Shaw and Rogers, Audet family controls the votes through supervoting shares. This isn't a democracy. Rogers only has 13% control of Cogeco itself: https://crtc.gc.ca/ownership/eng/cht043.pdf

I want more info, please email me. I put address in my HN proflie

Re: Rogers Canada, please fix the damn internet in Canada

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post #32

I just can't believe how much relies on just one company Rogers seemingly every debit machine in Canada, anything to do with passports, many doctor's offices. A similar situation occurred just last April (2021). https://mobilesyrup.com/2021/04/20/nationwide-rogers-outage-...

Canada is a country of oligopolies - everywhere from the products you can buy to the Federal Liberal Party's Trudeau Foundation being the receiving end for paid political favours. It is hard to think of areas where there is actual competition in Canada, because there are so few. Media? None, the Federal Liberals fund the approved media and leave the unapproved to fend for itself or die. The approved media is then hig…

Respectfully, this just sounds like the screed of somebody who doesn’t like Trudeau/liberals for political reasons not like an unbiased, cogent analysis of Canadian policy. Though I guess not always a lot of blue sky between those two. But I have a feeling you didn’t like liberals before Trudeau, and nothing was going to change your mind.

Re: Rogers Canada, please fix the damn internet in Canada

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post #32

I just can't believe how much relies on just one company Rogers seemingly every debit machine in Canada, anything to do with passports, many doctor's offices. A similar situation occurred just last April (2021). https://mobilesyrup.com/2021/04/20/nationwide-rogers-outage-...

Canada is a country of oligopolies - everywhere from the products you can buy to the Federal Liberal Party's Trudeau Foundation being the receiving end for paid political favours. It is hard to think of areas where there is actual competition in Canada, because there are so few. Media? None, the Federal Liberals fund the approved media and leave the unapproved to fend for itself or die. The approved media is then hig…

I think it's closer to:

CIA -> CSIS (intelligence)

FBI -> RCMP (federal police)

HN, please correct me if I'm wrong!

Re: Rogers Canada, please fix the damn internet in Canada

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post #32

I just can't believe how much relies on just one company Rogers seemingly every debit machine in Canada, anything to do with passports, many doctor's offices. A similar situation occurred just last April (2021). https://mobilesyrup.com/2021/04/20/nationwide-rogers-outage-...

Canada is a country of oligopolies - everywhere from the products you can buy to the Federal Liberal Party's Trudeau Foundation being the receiving end for paid political favours. It is hard to think of areas where there is actual competition in Canada, because there are so few. Media? None, the Federal Liberals fund the approved media and leave the unapproved to fend for itself or die. The approved media is then hig…

The majority of Canadian media is right leaning.

And not sure why you seem so set on blaming the liberals and JT because basically nothing changed when JT took power except a different set/type of scandals and legal weed.

Re: Rogers Canada, please fix the damn internet in Canada

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post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Canada is a country of oligopolies - everywhere from the products you can buy to the Federal Liberal Party's Trudeau Foundation being the receiving end for paid political favours. It is hard to think of areas where there is actual competition in Canada, because there are so few. Media? None, the Federal Liberals fund the approved media and leave the unapproved to fend for itself or die. The approved media is then hig…

I think it's closer to: CIA -> CSIS (intelligence) FBI -> RCMP (federal police) HN, please correct me if I'm wrong!

As I understand it your correct. Parent comment is wrong on a lot of things.
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