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Re: Tell HN: Razorpay a YC company shared donor data under a Section 91 order

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Post by slake »

ImPostingOnHN wrote: post #292
slake wrote: post #284

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Umm. Only it's not an allegation anymore. The 'journalist' in question already admitted to receiving foreign donations without having the necessary compliance registrations in place. This is also leaving out the part that this 'journalist' doctored a video about a person and posted it that is causing islamists to give the person beheading threats. 2 people who supported her have already been beheaded. This 'journalis…

did they fill out their 27B-6 forms for the donations? as for the allegations, I have not seen anything about the video encouraging killing, but have seen lots of coverage of the Indian government looking away from, or participating in, threats and actual violence against non-Hindi Indian citizens

An Indian NGO receiving foreign funds requires FCRA registration. That they didn't have.

As to the rest of your comment, his video was doctored to take the statement out of context and aimed at violent islamists to take action against the individual. His specific video is quoted by most of the islamists threatening her with beheading.

Re: Tell HN: Razorpay a YC company shared donor data under a Section 91 order

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Post by web108 »

ImPostingOnHN wrote: post #306
throwaway_9120 wrote: post #305

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please improve your knowledge of the matter. In ref to your 1st comment, she is NOT a govt official. She never held any position in the govt pre or post incident. Party spokesperson != Govt official. There are several FIRs filed on her across the country. That is an official government consequence . I'm not sure if you have a balanced perspective or just blindly supporting actions against her. Do you have any idea wh…

I consider the spokesperson for the party leading the government to carry more weight than a journalist, but that's beside the point. I'm ignoring the pretexts and prevarications, not only because they aren't justifications (two wrongs don't make a right), but also because they're one-sided. There is not a venue, for instance, where those of the religious minority being persecuted, can seek a trial judged by a jury o…

>>while those of Hindu faith are nearly guaranteed it.

I am neither a Hindu nor a Muslim and belong to a religious minority in India. We are less than 1% of the population. There are several minority religions like mine that peacefully co-exist in India. If Hindus were so bad as you want to made out to be, we would have been annihilated by now. I can confidently say this, Hindus are the one of the MOST peaceful communities in the world. However if you try to instigate them, do expect a resistance and backlash.

Do you know at the time of partition in 1947, there remained (rough estimate) 7% Muslims in India and 7% Hindus in Pakistan. The Hindu population in Pakistan has decimated to less than 1% while Muslims in India have increased to 20% of the Indian population. Where on earth do you find a community which is allegedly persecuted yet continue to flourish?

For God's sake, stop believing in half truths. I can continue to answer your so-called persecution of Muslims and you will continue with classic Whataboutery. Folks whose houses were demolished were not because of mere criticism but it was due to 1) They have created illegal houses and govt had sent notices to them several times over past several years. 2) They rioted and threw stones at Police. Yes, because of the trigger provided by 2) , the administration went ahead and executed corrective steps for 1) which they would have done possibly after some more time.

Instead of blaming everyone out there and playing victim, take a step back, look within and ask yourself why is that Muslim community can't live in peace anywhere in the world? 9/11, 26/11, France, Europe, UK, Israel, India, Afghanistan; they aren't happy anywhere.

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Post by known »

airocker wrote: post #267

For those judging Indian government through these comments should understand that majority of Indians are happy with the government and elections in India are as fair as in the USA :) . The ones who are unhappy with the government and feel disempowered are more motivated to post in a forum where someone would read their grievances.

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Re: Tell HN: Razorpay a YC company shared donor data under a Section 91 order

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Post by ImPostingOnHN »

web108 wrote: post #312
ImPostingOnHN wrote: post #306

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I consider the spokesperson for the party leading the government to carry more weight than a journalist, but that's beside the point. I'm ignoring the pretexts and prevarications, not only because they aren't justifications (two wrongs don't make a right), but also because they're one-sided. There is not a venue, for instance, where those of the religious minority being persecuted, can seek a trial judged by a jury o…

>>while those of Hindu faith are nearly guaranteed it. I am neither a Hindu nor a Muslim and belong to a religious minority in India. We are less than 1% of the population. There are several minority religions like mine that peacefully co-exist in India. If Hindus were so bad as you want to made out to be, we would have been annihilated by now. I can confidently say this, Hindus are the one of the MOST peaceful commu…

>If Hindus were so bad as you want to made out to be

I stopped reading there, when you pivoted from defending viewpoints to attacking the person you're discussing with

when you need to misrepresent what I've said so early on in trying to make your point, it means your point is bad -- twitter-discussion-level-bad -- so keep such discussion misbehavior there, please

Re: Tell HN: Razorpay a YC company shared donor data under a Section 91 order

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Post by ImPostingOnHN »

slake wrote: post #311
ImPostingOnHN wrote: post #292

Earlier quoted context omitted.

did they fill out their 27B-6 forms for the donations? as for the allegations, I have not seen anything about the video encouraging killing, but have seen lots of coverage of the Indian government looking away from, or participating in, threats and actual violence against non-Hindi Indian citizens

An Indian NGO receiving foreign funds requires FCRA registration. That they didn't have. As to the rest of your comment, his video was doctored to take the statement out of context and aimed at violent islamists to take action against the individual. His specific video is quoted by most of the islamists threatening her with beheading.

the reception rasorry, but "aimed at" sounds suspiciously weaseley, and your focus on how it was received, rather than how it was presented, even moreso.

did the video actually tell people to kill or not?

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Post by Gurgler »

lazyasciiart wrote: post #259
ridiculous_leke wrote: post #231

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Are there any legitimate polls to back this up? An average American on the internet is probably against the ruling, but that still doesn't mean that the majority of Americans are against it. If that was the case, we should have either seen pressure building up on "pro-life" states or a BLM style movement in favor of legalizing abortion. But I don't see neither.

Yes, lots of them, dating back years. A quick search gives me results of polls run by NPR, Washington Post, Gallup, CNN, Pew Research, NBC and CBS, to start with. The clear majority of Americans are in favor of legal abortion.

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Re: Tell HN: Razorpay a YC company shared donor data under a Section 91 order

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Post by throwaway_9120 »

ImPostingOnHN wrote: post #315
web108 wrote: post #312

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>>while those of Hindu faith are nearly guaranteed it. I am neither a Hindu nor a Muslim and belong to a religious minority in India. We are less than 1% of the population. There are several minority religions like mine that peacefully co-exist in India. If Hindus were so bad as you want to made out to be, we would have been annihilated by now. I can confidently say this, Hindus are the one of the MOST peaceful commu…

>If Hindus were so bad as you want to made out to be I stopped reading there, when you pivoted from defending viewpoints to attacking the person you're discussing with when you need to misrepresent what I've said so early on in trying to make your point, it means your point is bad -- twitter-discussion-level-bad -- so keep such discussion misbehavior there, please

- You come with lack of knowledge of the issue in the discussion.

- You present half truths

- You cast aspersions on Indian judiciary because supposedly Hindus will only support Hindus.(I am giving you a benefit of doubt and took liberty to convert “jury” to judiciary. If you really meant jury you should never ever discuss India)

When I call that out and also tried telling you what actual minority of India* thinks about Hindus in general, I am the one who is misrepresenting. Wow! ( Perhaps you were left with no intelligent counter argument, so simply attack me and accuse me of misrepresenting)

Please try these tactics some where else, HN is certainly not the place.

*Edit: Typo

Re: Tell HN: Razorpay a YC company shared donor data under a Section 91 order

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Post by ImPostingOnHN »

throwaway_9120 wrote: post #318
ImPostingOnHN wrote: post #315

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>If Hindus were so bad as you want to made out to be I stopped reading there, when you pivoted from defending viewpoints to attacking the person you're discussing with when you need to misrepresent what I've said so early on in trying to make your point, it means your point is bad -- twitter-discussion-level-bad -- so keep such discussion misbehavior there, please

- You come with lack of knowledge of the issue in the discussion. - You present half truths - You cast aspersions on Indian judiciary because supposedly Hindus will only support Hindus.(I am giving you a benefit of doubt and took liberty to convert “jury” to judiciary. If you really meant jury you should never ever discuss India) When I call that out and also tried telling you what actual minority of India* thinks ab…

I do none of those things, and your response is nothing but more pathetic attempts to redirect the discussion to be about me (ad hominem attacks/fallacies)

this tells me that your positions are indefensible on their own merits, and that you have no substantial response to the actual points I raised

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