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Re: Help me identify possible tracking device found in my car

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Remote starter. They are hack jobs to install. 435 MHz is the frequency the remote uses to start the car.

What is the usecase for a remote starter? I don't really understand why someone would want this. Could even be dangerous if it's left in gear.

Living in winter. Preheating the vehicle. (That’s what I use mine for, which is factory installed.)

Re: Help me identify possible tracking device found in my car

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Looks like a dealer installed 'alarm system'. I bought a mazda in 2011 which had a similar system, as best as I can tell the dealer installs them as asset trackers for cars on the lot and then tried to upsell it to me as an 'alarm system'. Its a bit sketchy that they didn't mention it to you when you bought the car...

The 433MHz is likely a keyfob receiver (and possibly transmitter to spoof the original key).

Re: Help me identify possible tracking device found in my car

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post #25

Remote starter. They are hack jobs to install. 435 MHz is the frequency the remote uses to start the car.

What is the usecase for a remote starter? I don't really understand why someone would want this. Could even be dangerous if it's left in gear.

Most people in the US do not drive manuals. You can get them in manuals but you have to hack some stuff, and yea, it will stall your car out if you start it in gear. In the US they are largely for convenience so you can heat or cool your car before you go out.

Re: Help me identify possible tracking device found in my car

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post #3

Wow. I can't help you identify the device, but curious if you have any ideas as to who might've installed this. Did your car have a previous owner?

New car, bought from dealer, who swear they did not install it and are blaming another dealer from whom they acquired the vehicle. As far as the dealer goes I intend to make a lot of over-the-top demands and threats until they replace the wiring with all-new OEM parts and a lifetime warranty, but I think I'll start from just pointing to California Penal Code 637.7, demanding a completely new vehicle, and seeing what…

> I think I'll start from just pointing to California Penal Code 637.7

I would strongly advise not doing that until you can prove that this was in fact a tracking device. I think a remote start/cutoff is much more likely, c.f.:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32040472

Re: Help me identify possible tracking device found in my car

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post #24

If you google KARR Honda or KARR Alarm you should find some better information. I found identical looking devices by using Google Lens and focusing on just the black box with the green button. https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2016/08/never-buy-car-alar... https://www.reddit.com/r/whatisit/comments/rnr48t/found_unde... https://www.reddit.com/r/subaru/comments/7m9dv9/mysterious_b...

How is it allowed for a dealer to cut wires and install a non OEM-approved electronic device onto the CAN bus? This seems like it would void all the manufacturer warranties and potentially create liability for the manufacturer if it malfunctions.

Re: Help me identify possible tracking device found in my car

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post #24

If you google KARR Honda or KARR Alarm you should find some better information. I found identical looking devices by using Google Lens and focusing on just the black box with the green button. https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2016/08/never-buy-car-alar... https://www.reddit.com/r/whatisit/comments/rnr48t/found_unde... https://www.reddit.com/r/subaru/comments/7m9dv9/mysterious_b...

How is it allowed for a dealer to cut wires and install a non OEM-approved electronic device onto the CAN bus? This seems like it would void all the manufacturer warranties and potentially create liability for the manufacturer if it malfunctions.

Because they didn’t think they would get caught
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