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Re: LG 28-inch 16:18 DualUp Monitor

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Post by amelius »

isametry wrote: post #132
wongarsu wrote: post #28

I find panning my eyes left and right to other monitors more natural than up and down, and I think most ergonomics experts would agree. As such a 32:9 widescreen seems preferable to a 16:8. But if you are pressed for space, either because of small desks or because of everything else going on on your desk (people who work not only in the virtual world) this seems like a great compromise.

Also don't forget that our eyes are… you know… next to each other. Rather than stacked vertically. The aspect ratio for the average binocular human is almost 2:1 (vertical FOV is around 100°, while horizontal is up to 190°). [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_eye#Field_of_view

Is that 190° the range for both eyes simultaneously?

Re: LG 28-inch 16:18 DualUp Monitor

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Post by Bud »

pedrocr wrote: post #70
user_7832 wrote: post #18

On a similar note, does anyone know of a squarish monitor that doesn't cost an arm and a leg, and preferably has a good color gamut coverage? There was an 1920*1920 monitor ( https://www.inputmag.com/reviews/square-monitor-eizo-flexsca... ) but that's over 1k USD :( There are other nice displays like Huawei's Mateview at 3000*2000 but nothing costs less than ~550-600$/€. It's a bit of a pity because you can get a dec…

If what you value is vertical space/resolution why not run a 4K monitor vertically? You can either use the full resolution or crop at whatever vertical space you prefer.

It's a little bit better but it's still a crap aspect ratio, and turning it vertical doesn't fix all of the problem. Now it's too tall and not wide enough.

Re: LG 28-inch 16:18 DualUp Monitor

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Post by likeclockwork »

cjbprime wrote: post #179

For what it's worth, my take: buy something like the LG C2 42" OLED TV. It is huge (but not too huge) and an excellent quality display. If you want to try ultrawide, or a square display, or an unusual aspect ratio, just.. make those desktop sizes out of your large screen.

LG C2 42" is 8.3 megapixels vs. this monitor's 7.4 megapixels.

This monitor offers 88% of the pixels the LG C2 does but compresses them into half the surface area. It also costs half the price.

For the same amount of money you can have 14.8 megapixels at higher PPI in a much more flexible format. 4K seems like a lot of real estate but at standard->lower PPI (large screen few pixels) realistically you don't get that much more real estate, especially compared to the 2560x1440 (and multiples thereof) displays.

I used to use a 55" LG OLED as a monitor but in practice, coming from dual 27" 2560x1440 monitors, I rarely did deep work in quadrants of 1920x1080. I tended to use a 2560 main slice and then the leftovers for reference and my terminals. I found 55" 4K as a monitor to be overly large and lacking in usable detail and I'm not sure I trust 42" to be small enough to make up for that.

Re: LG 28-inch 16:18 DualUp Monitor

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Post by steanne »

rsync wrote: post #139

EIZO makes a 1:1 monitor you can buy off the shelf right now: https://www.eizo.com/products/flexscan/ev2730q/

i have that and the one thing i don't like about it is the max rate is 60hz. even 75 would be fine; i don't need amazing, just a bit more than 60. this new lg monitor has really neat features: the picture by picture and the built-in kvm are clever and useful, but it has the same 60hz.

Re: LG 28-inch 16:18 DualUp Monitor

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Post by gedy »

js2 wrote: post #178
sofixa wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The front of the monitor is 24" from my nose Isn't that a bit too close? Can you see all of it at once, and is there anything but it in your field of view? I'm asking because i had a 60cm (24'' is 61cm) desk with a 24'' screen and i found that too close and too straining on my eyes.

It's as close as it needs to be for the size fonts and resolution I want to run it at, and still be able to read comfortably with my 50 year-old eyes. Yes, it's a bit on the close side so I do have to pan my head a bit. As I mentioned, I do push it back and bring it forward throughout the day, but I just measured where I'd left it at after coding yesterday and it was at 24" away. I don't really have any issues with e…

> I tried progressive glasses (modern versions of bifocals) but found them extremely annoying with their fishbowl effect

Lord you aren't kidding about that - I tried these after a doctor recommended, and it was so jarring and disorienting I thought something had to be wrong. Apparently that's just how they are.

Re: LG 28-inch 16:18 DualUp Monitor

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Post by adamredwoods »

coryrc wrote: post #94
user_7832 wrote: post #18

On a similar note, does anyone know of a squarish monitor that doesn't cost an arm and a leg, and preferably has a good color gamut coverage? There was an 1920*1920 monitor ( https://www.inputmag.com/reviews/square-monitor-eizo-flexsca... ) but that's over 1k USD :( There are other nice displays like Huawei's Mateview at 3000*2000 but nothing costs less than ~550-600$/€. It's a bit of a pity because you can get a dec…

Find an old Trinitron :)

I had a flat 17" Trinitron. So heavy! I still brought it to LAN parties.

Re: LG 28-inch 16:18 DualUp Monitor

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Post by kevin_thibedeau »

mixmastamyk wrote: post #193
pedrocr wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If what you value is vertical space/resolution why not run a 4K monitor vertically? You can either use the full resolution or crop at whatever vertical space you prefer.

I do but 9:16 is too tall and skinny, would like it a bit more square.

This is where the vertically curved displays used for video slots would shine as a general purpose monitor. You'd have less vertical range to scan and refocus on.

Re: LG 28-inch 16:18 DualUp Monitor

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Post by acchow »

kposehn wrote: post #196
likeclockwork wrote: post #189

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's unfortunate. I was hoping to get one of these as an external monitor for an MBP. I do have to wonder though, you're saying 'Screen scaling with Mac OS' and 'scaling issues on mac' but this is just a monitor, Isn't that "MacOS screen scaling does not work well" and "mac scaling issues" rather than any defect with the device itself?

I was disappointed too. In the end the vastly improved aspect ratio and ergonomics could not overcome the unpleasant screen quality. While Mac OS has never had an issue with other monitors and scaling replies in my experience, it does for the DualUp. I’m not knowledgeable enough about the various protocols to know if this is Apple or LG’s responsibility, but the end result is not pleasant.

I believe for Apple's rescaling to work properly, it needs to be able to render at 2x resolution on both axes (4x resolution total). So for this 2560 x 2880, it needs a GPU to render internally at 5210x5760. That is 30MP. Can your GPU actually do this?

Re: LG 28-inch 16:18 DualUp Monitor

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Post by sicher »

Matthias247 wrote: post #194
sicher wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This LG is just shy of 140 dpi.

You are right. I got confused by the mention of 1440p - which is not really what this screen has at 28“. Still not really in the hidpi category. I assume it would be most usable with something along 1.5-1.75 scaling, which produces inferior results to 2x.

I would prefer higher dpi too. If someone would make a hidpi square (ish) screen I would buy it in a heartbeat. The Huawei Mateview looks great but can't swivel to portrait, unfortunately.
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