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Weedkiller ingredient tied to cancer found in 80% of US urine samples

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Re: Weedkiller ingredient tied to cancer found in 80% of US urine samples

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Society loves to make fun of those who choose organic produce, but avoiding glysophate is the main reason I do so, and it works:

> Organic diet intervention significantly reduces urinary glyphosate levels in U.S. children and adults > https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S001393512...

Re: Weedkiller ingredient tied to cancer found in 80% of US urine samples

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post #111

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You do have to have a dim outlook on your prospects of winning to agree to pay out 10 billion.

Winning or losing a lawsuit of this type is not necessarily proof of guilt, or proof that roundup causes cancer. what it proves is that a jury was convinced that it does.

Funny we execute people based on that standard, but yet it’s somehow lesser here…

Re: Weedkiller ingredient tied to cancer found in 80% of US urine samples

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I was shocked to learn that many farms are using the chemical to spray the entire field in order to not just kill weeds, but also to increase bud yield / weight. Similar to the rohip whatever chemical is given to some beef when it close to slaughter to magically make it gain weight. Apparently when you spray this stuff on the plants a couple days before harvest, they know they are being killed / dieing - so they put…

Wow that's incredibly depressing. Yeah glyphosate kills weeds by inducing unsustainable growth and forcing the plant to overextend itself and die as a result. So it makes sense that if you apply it to a crop you're going to harvest anyway you'll get a bit more yield out of it. I guess tech+ban is the only way to go, unless we're okay forcing ourselves to play the cancer lottery with worse odds.

2,4-D is the widely used growth accelerator.

Glyphosate blocks the action of an enzyme that is necessary for plants to grow.

Crops are frequently sprayed with desiccants to speed harvest once they are mature. Glyphosate is used that way.

Re: Weedkiller ingredient tied to cancer found in 80% of US urine samples

#154

Society loves to make fun of those who choose organic produce, but avoiding glysophate is the main reason I do so, and it works: > Organic diet intervention significantly reduces urinary glyphosate levels in U.S. children and adults > https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S001393512...

There’s no question it would be better if it were true but how sure can we be that it’s not just the same food with different labels?

Re: Weedkiller ingredient tied to cancer found in 80% of US urine samples

#155

Not knowing anything about glyphosate, I went to the article before reading the comments. I’ll just put this here because it was clear the researchers wanted to be sure people see it. From the first paragraph of the article—> > In 2015, the International Agency for Research on Cancer determined that glyphosate is a “probable human carcinogen” (IARC, 2015). However, the European Food Safety Authority and the Joint Foo…

This writing looks like the child of a million different high paid corporate attorneys.

Re: Weedkiller ingredient tied to cancer found in 80% of US urine samples

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That would pretty much mean no new chemicals could be used for anything ever.

Of course they could, you just have to prove that they are harmless (at least in their expected usage and dosage)

How do you do that?

Re: Weedkiller ingredient tied to cancer found in 80% of US urine samples

#157

Not knowing anything about glyphosate, I went to the article before reading the comments. I’ll just put this here because it was clear the researchers wanted to be sure people see it. From the first paragraph of the article—> > In 2015, the International Agency for Research on Cancer determined that glyphosate is a “probable human carcinogen” (IARC, 2015). However, the European Food Safety Authority and the Joint Foo…

The back and forth with regulatory agencies is so frustrating. Another user here pointed out a while back that the better regulatory model, when it comes to health, is to put the onus on the supplier. We must scientifically prove the thing is safe to use, not have to prove it is unsafe to be removed.

This is essentially the model that we have with the FDA, right? And we have a bunch of problems with that too. I don't think there's a simple solution that just makes all scenarios better/easier/safer/whatever.

Re: Weedkiller ingredient tied to cancer found in 80% of US urine samples

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post #141

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right and that's why they just settled instead of proving their product is safe

You don’t prove a product is safe. You fail to prove it isn’t.

Considering how much money they have and the size of their very highly paid legal team, I'd say that says a lot.

Re: Weedkiller ingredient tied to cancer found in 80% of US urine samples

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post #141

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right and that's why they just settled instead of proving their product is safe

You don’t prove a product is safe. You fail to prove it isn’t.

Actually, for _most_ products, the best they do is _in different trials it appears safe_. They don't even try and prove the product isn't safe.
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