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Weedkiller ingredient tied to cancer found in 80% of US urine samples

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The og comment is flagged so I can’t reply to it but anyone with two brain cells can see the level of astroturfing Monsanto/Bauer has done in the past 15 years

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Let me express my utter lack of confidence in your statement's connection to reality. The "gluten intolerance" should be a strong warning sign of Woo.

How come? Is it not true that ~0.75% of Americans have celiac disease? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coeliac_disease

It’s also true that 12% of Americans are left handed. But that doesn’t mean it’s caused by Roundup.

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Why do you need to kill weeds? Adapt and stop having lawns.

Lawns are awful for the environment, and lawn care is a large part of this. Why we still have golf courses in any area that is regularly in drought is beyond me.

A lot of golf courses use grey water.

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Maybe people just in general are opposed to removing car infrastructure and it is not some anti-democratic plot against your views?

It's kind of sad that everyone thinks the person responding to them is a bit nowadays. In the vast majority of cases where I have looked into it, the person is not a "shill", but it is a convenient way to shy away from the actual arguments they are making.

Unfortunately, that convenient method is not welcome here at HN. Reread the HN guidelines.

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How far off are we from having drones that mechanically remove weeds at a reasonable cost? It's ridiculous that we put up with spraying sketchy chemicals on our food. We can build loyal wingman drones to kill enemy aircraft but we can't kill weeds?? Edit: I'm talking about farming, not lawns. RTFA

Bees won't survive until it (if ever) happens. We are likely too.

It is like relying on aliens to bring peace on Earth.

Outlawing glyphosate would fix it (people did agriculture before 1974 (without drones)). Though it is almost as unlikely as aliens.

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The og comment is flagged so I can’t reply to it but anyone with two brain cells can see the level of astroturfing Monsanto/Bauer has done in the past 15 years

It's getting flagged because you both are breaking HN guidelines.

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Lawns are less important. We would have no agricultural output if we didn’t weed.

Farming existed before weed killing. It's extremely useful but output doesn't drop to zero without it.

Farming without pesticides existed before we needed to feed 9 billion people.

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I recommend you remind yourself of the HN rules. The evidence that glyphosate in fold causes cancer is currently really weak, albeit enough to convince a lay jury.

You're not responding to the parent's point. They're not saying that it causes or doesn't cause cancer.

They're saying Monsanto and other multi billion dollar industrial players have permanent PR campaigns running that include posting on social media. I think that's obviously right and a big problem in terms of public discourse, at the very least, because it drowns out legitimate questions and concerns.

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Not knowing anything about glyphosate, I went to the article before reading the comments. I’ll just put this here because it was clear the researchers wanted to be sure people see it. From the first paragraph of the article—> > In 2015, the International Agency for Research on Cancer determined that glyphosate is a “probable human carcinogen” (IARC, 2015). However, the European Food Safety Authority and the Joint Foo…

People who have been exposed to the chemical got cancer. Internal Monsanto documents show the link and their concern. A man got a court to rule in his favour for 289 million dollars, after the jury saw this evidence: https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/aug/10/monsanto-tr...

Re: Weedkiller ingredient tied to cancer found in 80% of US urine samples

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"Tied to cancer" in the sense of "if you torture data long enough, it will confess."

In a sense of here mister lobbyist this is a glass of perfectly safe glyphosate, drink it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWM_PgnoAtA

Salt isn't a carcinogen but if you drink a glass of salt water you'll vomit.
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