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Few people grasp the amount of effort Daniel Gackle expends running HN (2020)

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Re: Few people grasp the amount of effort Daniel Gackle expends running HN (2020)

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post #17

I just find it comically ironic that the same community infamous for sleuthing and demanding the full root cause of failure from their favourite faang darlings and various digital feudal estates has been so quiet, forgiving, and reflective about the HN outage and its cause. am I missing something? does anyone know what caused the failure?

here’s the deal: HN is a tiny forum which basically runs on a single machine with a single backup. There are surely only a few people monitoring it. It’s used by about ~1 million people a day, and nobody really “relies” on HN. GitHub, Facebook, Google, AWS etc. are massive clusters of over 1000 servers spread across continents, with multiple failure modes and run by many DevOps. Many people and services rely on them…

It was down for 8 hours.

Re: Few people grasp the amount of effort Daniel Gackle expends running HN (2020)

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post #4

I wonder how does dang manage it everyday. HN moderation can be so tiring. There is multitude of comment types: insightful, accusatory, snarky etc. And dang does point out the egregious ones every time.

Also, does dang ever sleep?

Wikimedia's statistics tools for its wikis includes a bubble chart of number of edits by a user per hour of day per day of week[1] (AFAICT a type of graph called a punchcard chart), used precisely for when you wonder this about a Wikimedia user.

That and other detailed statistics are only shown for users who opt in, but anyone motivated can process a database dump locally, even using XTools itself, which is open source. Edit history can reveal a lot of information about a user, so this an inevitable privacy problem for any scrapable site.

[1] https://xtools.wmflabs.org/ec-timecard/en.wikipedia.org/Jimb...

Re: Few people grasp the amount of effort Daniel Gackle expends running HN (2020)

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I've always been grateful and impressed by how kind and compassionate and educational @dang's responses to me have been, both in public and in private.

He's inspired me to approach many more social interactions that I'd historically be annoyed or short with someone as a teaching moment that can be, for lack of a better term, leveraged into a happy outcome for both participants. It was something I never really considered before.

We're all better off for having these interactions with him. Thanks so much, Mr. G!

Re: Few people grasp the amount of effort Daniel Gackle expends running HN (2020)

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post #67
post #6

Is this a volunteer role or a full-time job?

It's a full time job to help a VC fund make more money. This thread is bizarre and cult like.

Ha yeah I was making fun of the (many) people who think this is some kind of noble labor of love.

Re: Few people grasp the amount of effort Daniel Gackle expends running HN (2020)

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As dang is shadowbanning people, I cannot agree with many of the popular sentiments expressed.

I think shadowbanning is unjust, and if is someone is violating the rules nonstop they should be made aware of it through notice and an actual ban.

Re: Few people grasp the amount of effort Daniel Gackle expends running HN (2020)

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post #84

I've always been grateful and impressed by how kind and compassionate and educational @dang's responses to me have been, both in public and in private. He's inspired me to approach many more social interactions that I'd historically be annoyed or short with someone as a teaching moment that can be, for lack of a better term, leveraged into a happy outcome for both participants. It was something I never really conside…

Seeing how @dang handles trolls, delicate topics and inflamed egos just made me accept the fact that I will never be such a patient person; I truly appreciate how extraordinary their work is.

Re: Few people grasp the amount of effort Daniel Gackle expends running HN (2020)

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post #58

Posts like these, for me, highlight the class divide. PG thinks "few people" grasp how much effort dang expends, when in reality, a whole class of people working in customer service roles expend roughly the same amount of effort. Sure, dang might be uniquely efficient, but the expenditure of effort is on the same order. I once witnessed a Delta employee in ATL process a queue of customers, all with issues regarding t…

> PG thinks "few people" grasp how much effort dang expends, when in reality, a whole class of people working in customer service roles expend roughly the same amount of effort.

PG didn’t say that no one expends more effort than dang, he said that few people grasp the effort expended in moderating HN

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