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Rogers network outage across Canada hits banks, businesses and consumers

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Re: Rogers network outage across Canada hits banks, businesses and consumers

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Post by brutus1213 »

I don't understand how this is not on CNN/BBC news. This isn't the top news at the moment but significant .. I don't know if people in other countries know how this feels. People are saying this is pre-1990 .. but it is not really. People don't have landlines any more .. all our media is streamed via Internet. Stores can't take payments or orders. People can't call Ubers/taxis Millions of people don't have cellular. 911 issues have been reported. It has been over 12 hours and issue is not fixed.

This video shows a senior person at Rogers giving an update on the situation. It feels like I am in the twilight zone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYfRZZaPrC0

Re: Rogers network outage across Canada hits banks, businesses and consumers

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Post by nerdponx »

UkrainianJew wrote: post #121

The utterly inefficient and overpriced Canadian telecoms exist only because we allow one specific behavior: 1. A new local player comes to town, builds their own infrastructure (e.g. connects one building to fiber) and starts offering competitive service. 2. Rogers/Shaw/Bell/Telus immediately offer better terms for the residents of that building. 3. The competitor runs out of money and leaves. 4. The telecoms revert…

Does Canada not have strong antitrust laws? As far as I know, this is explicitly illegal in the USA.

Re: Rogers network outage across Canada hits banks, businesses and consumers

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Post by brailsafe »

zeagle wrote: post #39

Hopefully this will contribute to a regulatory denial of Rogers' upcoming purchase of Shaw, if only to keep a competitor with its own separate infrastructure to minimize outages through consolidation.

omg I didn't even know about that. How could that be allowed to go through

Re: Rogers network outage across Canada hits banks, businesses and consumers

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Post by djmips »

themitigating wrote: post #91
amscanne wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a lot of experience in both places. Americans may think think they do, but I don’t think so. As bad as Comcast and others are in the USA, I have found them to be far more efficient and competitive than Rogers or Bell in Canada. Same for banks in Canada. It’s unbelievable what they do and get away with. And airlines. Rather, Airline. I believe there’s a cultural element here: Canadians are more risk adverse and…

In Jersey City I can get xfinity (cable) Verizon 5g, or Fios 1gbit unmetered for $65 a month It's probably the density and income levels that make it worth putting out the infrastructure

Not really. Most Canadians live near the US border and concentrated in high density. There's no correlation to what you are proposing. Income levels are good. Looking at developing countries, they have cheaper and better plans than Canada.

Re: Rogers network outage across Canada hits banks, businesses and consumers

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Post by brailsafe »

ezekiel11 wrote: post #23
ilrwbwrkhv wrote: post #15

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I know many countries have problems but Canada is in a okay spot. Specific cities have looming crisis on their hands but this is largely the fault of provincial governance. Little of that I attribute to Canada as a hole, I just find BC in particular to be quite mediocre in terms of value compared to what you pay.

Why do you say that? I'm quite happy paying what I do renting in Vancouver. I usually find that people who actively want out of BC either desperately want to own property and can't, don't have any hobbies that suit the west coast, or can't make friends

Re: Rogers network outage across Canada hits banks, businesses and consumers

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Post by oliwary »

pj_mukh wrote: post #152
UkrainianJew wrote: post #121

The utterly inefficient and overpriced Canadian telecoms exist only because we allow one specific behavior: 1. A new local player comes to town, builds their own infrastructure (e.g. connects one building to fiber) and starts offering competitive service. 2. Rogers/Shaw/Bell/Telus immediately offer better terms for the residents of that building. 3. The competitor runs out of money and leaves. 4. The telecoms revert…

Curious though what the government could do about this pricing scheme here? Seems like the solution is to setup a bureaucracy to watch pricing and then micro-manage the situation whenever its tried? The ride-hailing services pulled this in various places around the world. Airlines in Canada did it as well. Feels like whack-a-mole.

Maybe re-examine the foreign ownership rules for telecommunications companies...

"As it stands now, foreign ownership of a telecommunications company is limited to no more than 20 per cent of a company’s voting shares and no more than 33.3 per cent of the voting shares of a carrier’s holding company, and an effective total limit of 46.7 per cent (as long as the foreign entity doesn’t have control). On top of that, at least 80 per cent of the board members must be Canadian citizens." [0]

(Although seems not to apply to small actors under 10 percent of the market share anymore)

[0] https://financialpost.com/telecom/tight-reins-leaves-our-tel...

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