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Microsoft's Growing Control of Linux

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Re: Microsoft's Growing Control of Linux

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Post by dx034 »

PoignardAzur wrote: post #17

> “Linux is a cancer that attaches itself in an intellectual property sense to everything it touches.” — Microsoft CEO, Steve Ballmer > Just the same, over the last few years, Microsoft has invested heavily in obtaining control over key portions of the Linux (and, to some degree, open source) ecosystem. This seems incredibly disingenuous. The article is implying there's a smooth continuity between these two sentences…

Well, Balmer's been gone for 8 years, so MSFT shouldn't be seen as it was when he was CEO.

Re: Microsoft's Growing Control of Linux

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Post by sylware »

This is certainly not sane to presume that m$ is not pulling some strings in the shadows. Don't forget they own the linkedin database, they are "all-knowing" of ppl professional networks (or probably good chunks of them): targeted recruitment can be extremely efficient: you know, that "random" microsoft guy in the cafe who did offer you your current job. Amazon does employ the daughter of one of its most powerfull regulators in the USA... as a lobbyist (last week tonight show with John Oliver).

Is this that unfortunate that the "absolutely non-controversial" systemd (I don't run that horrible BIP) author ends up in m$? (irony).

"why ID software is not releasing doom glibc/linux builds anymore?" to learn that m$ bought their parent company. BTW, will that happen too for silk song (the game)?

How much of the linux kernel you have into the doz kernel?

Re: Microsoft's Growing Control of Linux

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Post by h2odragon »

Github was scary enough just as a monolith of FOSS code. In microsoft's hands, it's terrifying: they have shown lack of integrity in the past that makes their current professions (and examples!) of civilized behavior suspect.

Is your project dead or is it just that Github et all the PR's others sent? Is your project discoverable there or is it buried in irrelevant search results?

Could Microsoft open some of their older code? a FOSS (as far as possible) Win2k would still be of value to the world.

Re: Microsoft's Growing Control of Linux

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Post by akagusu »

nyberg wrote: post #16
akagusu wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. Others are doing the same, probably to take some control for themselves, but have a look on the recent conversation about GTK5 being Wayland-only. It is the same playbook they used to force Systemd adoption all over again. So, yes, they are still using the same playbook.

Wayland being a requirement sounds like a sound choice in terms of maintenance and the issues of X itself. Applications don't need to update to GTK5.

What are these issues of X?

Because everyone talks about the issues of X, but Gnome, KDE, Xfce and others run flawless on X, but these same desktops have problems when running on Wayland.

Re: Microsoft's Growing Control of Linux

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Post by weare138 »

alophawen wrote: post #6
weare138 wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The article never mentions Linux on the desktop.

> The article never mentions Linux on the desktop. The comment you reply to never claimed that it did. Why not reflect on the content of the comment and be a part of the discussion instead of .. this?

Because it's a straw man argument unrelated to the article?

Re: Microsoft's Growing Control of Linux

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Post by pessimizer »

alophawen wrote: post #6
weare138 wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The article never mentions Linux on the desktop.

> The article never mentions Linux on the desktop. The comment you reply to never claimed that it did. Why not reflect on the content of the comment and be a part of the discussion instead of .. this?

A part of the discussion about how Linux people only criticize Microsoft because of their own jealousy and failure? No, that's a stupid discussion.

Re: Microsoft's Growing Control of Linux

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Post by xet7 »

PoignardAzur wrote: post #17

> “Linux is a cancer that attaches itself in an intellectual property sense to everything it touches.” — Microsoft CEO, Steve Ballmer > Just the same, over the last few years, Microsoft has invested heavily in obtaining control over key portions of the Linux (and, to some degree, open source) ecosystem. This seems incredibly disingenuous. The article is implying there's a smooth continuity between these two sentences…

Microsoft begins "Extinguish" phase of dealing with Open Source:

https://lunduke.substack.com/p/microsoft-begins-extinguish-p...

Re: Microsoft's Growing Control of Linux

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Post by xet7 »

PoignardAzur wrote: post #17

> “Linux is a cancer that attaches itself in an intellectual property sense to everything it touches.” — Microsoft CEO, Steve Ballmer > Just the same, over the last few years, Microsoft has invested heavily in obtaining control over key portions of the Linux (and, to some degree, open source) ecosystem. This seems incredibly disingenuous. The article is implying there's a smooth continuity between these two sentences…

Microsoft released Linux distro:

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/microsoft-released-cbl-mar...

Re: Microsoft's Growing Control of Linux

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Post by xet7 »

h2odragon wrote: post #23

Github was scary enough just as a monolith of FOSS code. In microsoft's hands, it's terrifying: they have shown lack of integrity in the past that makes their current professions (and examples!) of civilized behavior suspect. Is your project dead or is it just that Github et all the PR's others sent? Is your project discoverable there or is it buried in irrelevant search results? Could Microsoft open some of their ol…

Microsoft DOS https://github.com/Microsoft/MS-DOS

Microsoft WinFile https://github.com/Microsoft/winfile

Outside of Microsoft created Windows 2003 32bit: - https://reactos.org - https://github.com/wekan/wekan/wiki/ReactOS

Re: Microsoft's Growing Control of Linux

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Post by xet7 »

h2odragon wrote: post #23

Github was scary enough just as a monolith of FOSS code. In microsoft's hands, it's terrifying: they have shown lack of integrity in the past that makes their current professions (and examples!) of civilized behavior suspect. Is your project dead or is it just that Github et all the PR's others sent? Is your project discoverable there or is it buried in irrelevant search results? Could Microsoft open some of their ol…

Outside of Microsoft created DOS:

https://freedos.org

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