People have been warning this for a decade and nobody listened. But I am shocked to know Lennart "Systemd" Poettering is working for Microsoft. To be fair with Microsoft, they are only following Red Hat's playbook. Red Hat has been doing this for 3 decades: they pay for conferences, they donate for projects and they hire developers working in such projects. This was how Red Hat took influence over almost the entire L…
Microsoft's Growing Control of Linux
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Re: Microsoft's Growing Control of Linux
#12Why wouldn't they want to control something, that is just a subsystem for Windows? Seems logical to me.
Re: Microsoft's Growing Control of Linux
#13People have been warning this for a decade and nobody listened. But I am shocked to know Lennart "Systemd" Poettering is working for Microsoft. To be fair with Microsoft, they are only following Red Hat's playbook. Red Hat has been doing this for 3 decades: they pay for conferences, they donate for projects and they hire developers working in such projects. This was how Red Hat took influence over almost the entire L…
Is Red Hat still following the playbook? The more companies are engaging in this sort of strategy, the less concentrated the control should be, right?
Others are doing the same, probably to take some control for themselves, but have a look on the recent conversation about GTK5 being Wayland-only.
It is the same playbook they used to force Systemd adoption all over again.
So, yes, they are still using the same playbook.
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#14Why wouldn't they want to control something, that is just a subsystem for Windows? Seems logical to me.
Comments like these seriously haunt me. How many people there are who really think that?
Linux people: convert to Linux - it's better.
Microsoft: I got you, let me bring Linux to you.
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#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
Comments like these seriously haunt me. How many people there are who really think that?
To me as a developer: Linux people: convert to Linux - it's better. Microsoft: I got you, let me bring Linux to you.
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#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is Red Hat still following the playbook? The more companies are engaging in this sort of strategy, the less concentrated the control should be, right?
Yes. Others are doing the same, probably to take some control for themselves, but have a look on the recent conversation about GTK5 being Wayland-only. It is the same playbook they used to force Systemd adoption all over again. So, yes, they are still using the same playbook.
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#17> Just the same, over the last few years, Microsoft has invested heavily in obtaining control over key portions of the Linux (and, to some degree, open source) ecosystem.
This seems incredibly disingenuous.
The article is implying there's a smooth continuity between these two sentences, and basically pretending Satya Nadella doesn't exist.
This is like saying "For years, Microsoft has completely ignored accessibility in video games. And now they're investing in the adaptive controller and forcing developers to implement accessibility features? Why? Why are trying to control accessibility?" without mentioning Phil Spencer.
> Well. If we’re simply being practical and objective… Microsoft seems to have achieved the “Embrace” and “Extend” portion of the old “Embrace. Extend. Extinguish.” business plan.
How? How have they done that? Leaving aside that Microsoft hasn't done EEE in a while, the article doesn't mention anything that could count as the "Extend" part of EEE. They haven't released an extended version of Linux with Microsoft-exclusive features, they haven't created special Github plans that only work if you're using Microsoft Office, they haven't released a special version of Git that only works with Visual Studio or VsCode, etc.
There's reasonable distrust, which Microsoft certainly has earned, and then there's paranoia.
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is Red Hat still following the playbook? The more companies are engaging in this sort of strategy, the less concentrated the control should be, right?
Yes. Others are doing the same, probably to take some control for themselves, but have a look on the recent conversation about GTK5 being Wayland-only. It is the same playbook they used to force Systemd adoption all over again. So, yes, they are still using the same playbook.
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#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
To me as a developer: Linux people: convert to Linux - it's better. Microsoft: I got you, let me bring Linux to you.
Leave it to Microsoft to give the world something with the user-friendliness of Linux and the stability and performance of Windows.