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Former Japan PM Shinzo Abe Unconscious After Shooting; Man in Custody

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Re: Former Japan PM Shinzo Abe Unconscious After Shooting; Man in Custody

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He is, like many other Japanese, hell bent on rewriting Japanese history with a positive spin, completely ignoring or at best downplaying their colonisation atrocities before and during WW2. Wasn't he the one who went to a shrine to a "WW2 hero" who also just happened to be a war criminal? Historic revisionism is an apt description, not a "buzzword".

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The equivalent would be the PM of Germany denying the Holocaust and paying respects annually at the graves of Nazi elites.

Re: Former Japan PM Shinzo Abe Unconscious After Shooting; Man in Custody

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And after debating gun violence all week with my friends in the wake of the 4th of July shooting in Highland Park I made an example of Japan and it’s low gun violence. Now this happens. Crazy stuff still happens in Japan but it’s usually a knife or ax. But guns and Abe are on another level.

I'd argue that because gun crime in Japan is so low that the security required to prevent this sort of attack has not been properly prepared.

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The title doesn't match that of the article, “Former Japan PM Abe Unconscious After Shooting; Man in Custody”. The word assassinated is incorrect, because that means that he was killed. (Maybe he is dead, but the article doesn't say that.)

WaPo claims that "NHK reported that the 67-year-old was showing no vital signs." https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/07/07/japan-shinzo...

As numerous news services are reporting (e.g., the account I heard a minute ago on BBC World Service, also The Guardian, BBC's website, NY Times), as well as numerous comments in this thread, it's noted that "cardiac arrest" is often used to describe a patient/victim who has not yet been officially declared dead, but would be very likely to not be in a recoverable condition.

It's a very grave state in any event.

Re: Former Japan PM Shinzo Abe Unconscious After Shooting; Man in Custody

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Japanese police don't have a great reputation for pursuing leads, but it is most definitely one of the safest countries in the world.

"Safest countries in the world" is casting a pretty wide net. Yes, there are hundreds of countries worse. What is your point? Remove those worst countries and the US and it is pretty average compared to richer countries in the world.

The US shouldn't be thought of as a homogenous place. There are parts of the US -- most of it, geographically, as far as I can tell -- which are basically indistinguishable from their Japanese counterparts in crime rates and levels of social trust. Almost every good thing you can say about a Japanese town is true of a (smaller) American town, and vice versa. I've lived in nice places in America where crime was shocking and essentially not heard of; I've also lived in places where some lunatic with a screwdriver threatened to stab random passers-by six times before breakfast, and the police just sighed and took Philip McStabbins to jail overnight for the 262nd time because the DA wouldn't prosecute.

And that's the thing, isn't it? America is mostly super-low crime, but for some reason we have a dysfunctional criminal underclass that just won't go away. Japan seems weird to us because theirs is smaller than ours (and often held in check by Yakuza higher-ups with calmer heads.) Why do US cities have so many neighborhoods where you Do Not Go, while almost all of the US has no neighborhoods where you feel even vaguely unsafe?

Re: Former Japan PM Shinzo Abe Unconscious After Shooting; Man in Custody

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I don't think much of what it written in that article is up for debate? You can check his wikipedia page for example: Political pages on Wikipedia are notorious for left-leaning editorial domination and are not a useful measure in the way you intend.

You can go look at primary sources. Nippon Kaigi I’d a nationalist organization, plain and simple. It’s public record he’s in it. Moritomo Gakuen as well. What source of info would you believe in summarizing Shinzo Abe’s policy? The Economist? Basically any in depth coverage of Abe would go into this (not to judge but to state the current political conditions in Japan) so it’s findable

To be clear, I'm not taking a position - just pointing out the problems with wiki referencing for impartiality.

Re: Former Japan PM Shinzo Abe Unconscious After Shooting; Man in Custody

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The assassination attempt is indeed tragic. As for his being a good person, many would disagree. Unfortunately, both within and without Japan, he is a controversial figure. Even if one takes his armament of Japan in a sympathetic light, his historical revisionism, courting of the ultra-right, and tone-deaf nationalism caused troubles domestically and with its neighbors. All this is unfortunate as he genuinely boosted…

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Please see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32023521 and stop posting flamewar comments.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Former Japan PM Shinzo Abe Unconscious After Shooting; Man in Custody

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You know what Shinzo Abe didn't do? Invade countries and build death camps. This is an idiotic narrative you are peddling.

Please do not take HN threads further into flamewar.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Former Japan PM Shinzo Abe Unconscious After Shooting; Man in Custody

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That is a slippery slope to every state having restrictive NY-like gun laws. I don't care about legal or cultural precedent in germany or the EU. This isn't germany. The US plays a far more important role in global affairs, and as such must take more dramatic measures to prevent it from falling into the hands of some regime, those measures include the right to bear arms as well as freedom of speech and freedom of rel…

> must take more dramatic measures to prevent it from falling into the hands of some regime the pen used for voting has more power than a gun to prevent the US from falling into the hands of "some regime".

One could argue the US has already fallen, and guns are the only way we are going to get it back. Of course, that’s not a popular opinion, but try to take guns away from the citizens and it will be.
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