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Former Japan PM Shinzo Abe Unconscious After Shooting; Man in Custody

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Re: Former Japan PM Shinzo Abe Unconscious After Shooting; Man in Custody

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This is a terrible tragedy. Shinzo Abe seemed like a good man. I hope he pulls through, though reading the comments here makes it seem less likely.

The assassination attempt is indeed tragic. As for his being a good person, many would disagree. Unfortunately, both within and without Japan, he is a controversial figure. Even if one takes his armament of Japan in a sympathetic light, his historical revisionism, courting of the ultra-right, and tone-deaf nationalism caused troubles domestically and with its neighbors. All this is unfortunate as he genuinely boosted…

Controversial, certainly. Deserving of death? Not even close.

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My take is that gun violence has several different categories, and gun control only helps some of them (such as accidental, or emotional, spur of the moment shootings), but doesn't prevent any premeditated ones. It will not stop people like the one at 4th july, nor those school shootings. Unless the gun control laws completely outlaw civilians owning guns - which i dont think will fly. The root cause of gun violence…

> The root cause of gun violence is societal issues, not the guns themselves. Solve those societal issues (hard, and likely almost intractable unfortunately), or gun violence will persist. We have what, near 200 examples of other countries who are able to do better? It's almost like it doesn't require a society with no (vaguely alluded to) issues to prevent many gun crimes and mass shootings, and it's more about bein…

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Re: Former Japan PM Shinzo Abe Unconscious After Shooting; Man in Custody

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post #190

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The assassination attempt is indeed tragic. As for his being a good person, many would disagree. Unfortunately, both within and without Japan, he is a controversial figure. Even if one takes his armament of Japan in a sympathetic light, his historical revisionism, courting of the ultra-right, and tone-deaf nationalism caused troubles domestically and with its neighbors. All this is unfortunate as he genuinely boosted…

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You know what Shinzo Abe didn't do? Invade countries and build death camps.

This is an idiotic narrative you are peddling.

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I've never interacted with a Zainichi Korean but as a foreigner who's reported a crime I can assure you that it was dealt with.

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Having strangers yell at you is the sort of thing that happens to anyone who goes outside in San Francisco.

Re: Former Japan PM Shinzo Abe Unconscious After Shooting; Man in Custody

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The irony of lamenting people's reading material and then posting a Jacobin article the reads like a wall of text internet rant with some tabloid scuttlebutt sprinkled throughout. This is NOT a serious take on Abe. Centrist and professional IR academics laugh at the narrative that he's a fascist. A take that lives up to your handle. Edit: example from (center)left leaning academic economist blogger that speaks specif…

Noah (who recently praised Taiwanese politicians for the extremely materialistic point of them sometimes being cosplayers) is not much of a deeper thinker than most stuff in Jacobin. Abe is in Nippon Kaigi. He is a nationalist. He pushed for revising the constitution to remove the purely self-defense nature of the SDF. This is not a popular idea in Japan. It is barely a popular idea in his party! The guy also liked t…

He’s a nationalist (who isn’t?) and he wants to re-arm Japan. Sounds like the right approach in a world where China is digesting Hong Kong, is eying Taiwan menacingly, and where the US is showing clear intention to abandon its role as world police.

Re: Former Japan PM Shinzo Abe Unconscious After Shooting; Man in Custody

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A good man? Do people here read anything non-tech related? Shinzo Abe was a world-renown revisionist who tried to turn Japan back into a far-right, ultra-racist country. Look, you guys are super smart with computers, but stop this absolute nonsense. https://jacobin.com/2017/03/abe-nippon-kaigi-japan-far-right

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Re: Former Japan PM Shinzo Abe Unconscious After Shooting; Man in Custody

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A good man? Do people here read anything non-tech related? Shinzo Abe was a world-renown revisionist who tried to turn Japan back into a far-right, ultra-racist country. Look, you guys are super smart with computers, but stop this absolute nonsense. https://jacobin.com/2017/03/abe-nippon-kaigi-japan-far-right

Please don't take HN threads into hellish flamewar. It's not what this site is for, and it destroys what it is for.

I understand the provocation in the GP comment, but reacting in full flame mode, complete with insults, is exactly what the site guidelines ask you not to do.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Edit: you've started a bunch of other flamewars in this thread too. That's basically arson, regardless of right you are or feel you are. Please stop now.

(We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32023133.)

Re: Former Japan PM Shinzo Abe Unconscious After Shooting; Man in Custody

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post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My take is that gun violence has several different categories, and gun control only helps some of them (such as accidental, or emotional, spur of the moment shootings), but doesn't prevent any premeditated ones. It will not stop people like the one at 4th july, nor those school shootings. Unless the gun control laws completely outlaw civilians owning guns - which i dont think will fly. The root cause of gun violence…

Sorry, but why would a complete ban on citizens owning guns, unless for very special cases not severely curb gun violence?

Japan has 9 cases of gun deaths, the US had 35,000. You’d almost think it has an effect.

Re: Former Japan PM Shinzo Abe Unconscious After Shooting; Man in Custody

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post #94

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My take is that gun violence has several different categories, and gun control only helps some of them (such as accidental, or emotional, spur of the moment shootings), but doesn't prevent any premeditated ones. It will not stop people like the one at 4th july, nor those school shootings. Unless the gun control laws completely outlaw civilians owning guns - which i dont think will fly. The root cause of gun violence…

> It will not stop people like the one at 4th july, nor those school shootings. Unless the gun control laws completely outlaw civilians owning guns - which i dont think will fly. You sure about that? If we had an aggressive gun buyback program and really dried up the supply, sure, you might still be able to buy an assault rifle from the criminal underworld. However, if you have the disposable income to be able to aff…

>”and really dried up the supply, sure, you might still be able to buy an assault rifle from the criminal underworld.”

Might still? It would kick the underground firearm economy into overdrive. It’s also the case that the United States has a mind boggling amount of guns, more than any forced confiscation program could hope to put a noticeable dent into. “I lost my gun in a boating accident” is already a meme in gun culture. The black market would be well supplied.

Re: Former Japan PM Shinzo Abe Unconscious After Shooting; Man in Custody

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You know what Shinzo Abe didn't do? Invade countries and build death camps. This is an idiotic narrative you are peddling.

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