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I'm financially illiterate. Where can I find a good high yield savings account?

If you have money that you won't need to access for a year, I bonds currently pay close to 10%. 10K a year limit on what you can put in.

That’s not an EF or an SA.

Re: Twitter Layoff Started Today

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Seriously. I wouldn’t be surprised if the lowest total comp was in excess of $200k/year. If you can’t have 6 months in cash sitting in a high yield savings account on that, there’s no amount of severance that will help you.

While saving 6 months might be possible, I would love for you to point me to a high-yield savings account.

HYSA is a term typically used to describe savings accounts where the interest rate tracks the federal interest rates and is competitive with other "HYSAs". Right now 1% is the norm, and you can get that from several credit unions and banks. Some banks, however, use their name recognition to attract customers and offer lower yields. For example, a Wells Fargo savings account will not yield 1% at the moment.

Re: Twitter Layoff Started Today

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While saving 6 months might be possible, I would love for you to point me to a high-yield savings account.

You can only deposit 10k/yr but how does 9.62% sound?[0] [0] https://treasurydirect.gov/indiv/products/prod_ibonds_glance...

To add to this for next year, you can also purchase $5k more with a tax refund, for a total of $15k per year. A basic strategy is to plan ahead and over pay with your final paycheck of the tax year by updating your W-4 to withhold more to enable a tax refund if you weren't already expecting one.

Re: Twitter Layoff Started Today

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Isn't and Shouldn't are different things. Also, new hires exist. Not everyone has had time to actually accumulate wealth from their compensation. Not everyone was taught financial literacy before being dumped into a high stress job. Not everyone is in good health. I think sympathy and compassion are fine ideals to hold for any of our working class cohort.

> compassion are fine ideals to hold for any of our working class cohort. “Working class” lol. Class-wise, engineers are like the junior executives in the Mad Men era, or junior lawyers and bankers today. They are not only well compensated, but have tons of impact (and therefore leverage) as individual contributors. The “working class” are the folks cleaning the building who are fungible commodities. You can be a 10x…

> “Working class” lol. Class-wise, engineers are like the junior executives in the Mad Men era, or junior lawyers and bankers today. They are not only well compensated, but have tons of impact (and therefore leverage) as individual contributors.

Anyone who relies on wage labor for their income (as opposed to earnings from capital) is working class. That is the defining feature of the working class.

Unless you could retire tomorrow and support yourself from your capital holdings alone, you're a member of the working class. (Many engineers at Twitter likely could retire tomorrow and live off their equity, but I'm guessing the majority could not.)

People love to erode class solidarity by claiming that only people whose incomes are below a certain level are working class, or that you have to "work with your hands" to be working class. Don't fall for it.

Re: Twitter Layoff Started Today

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Isn't and Shouldn't are different things. Also, new hires exist. Not everyone has had time to actually accumulate wealth from their compensation. Not everyone was taught financial literacy before being dumped into a high stress job. Not everyone is in good health. I think sympathy and compassion are fine ideals to hold for any of our working class cohort.

I think treating our fellow humans like humans is more valuable than assuming they aren't capable of basic finance. Put another way, people will behave as you treat them. Treat them like they are fools who can't do finances and they will behave that way. Expect them to do basic financial behavior and they will. We literally make financial literacy courses free, online, without any need to even sign up. They will teac…

Treating people like human beings (adults) also means letting them feel the consequences of poor choices.

If someone is making $200,000 a year and is financial trouble when they get laid off (with severance), well, I reserve my tears for people who never see that kind of income their entire life.

Re: Twitter Layoff Started Today

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You know what you call someone with 1.5 million worth of assets? A millionaire. They will live, even if they have to move to "flyover country".

If they have a mortgage, they don't have 1.5M in assets. They have 1.5M in debt.

I hear there are plenty of willing buyers in the the Bay Area.

Re: Twitter Layoff Started Today

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While saving 6 months might be possible, I would love for you to point me to a high-yield savings account.

You can only deposit 10k/yr but how does 9.62% sound?[0] [0] https://treasurydirect.gov/indiv/products/prod_ibonds_glance...

That's not emergency fund material since there are big penalties for early (pre-12 months) withdrawal.

Re: Twitter Layoff Started Today

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“ many of these folks won’t be able to sell the shares they earned. The money they need pay bills and keep them afloat if and until they get new employment. When severance ends, that’s it.” It’s Twitter’s responsibility to not only offer severance, but make sure employees keep an emergency fund?

Last time I was at a company that had blackout periods for employee trading, it didn't apply to former employees. I quit on a Friday and exercised then sold all my options the next Monday while my former coworkers were still in their blackout periods. Hopefully it is the same at Twitter.

The blackout policies are a tiny part an employer policy and a large part an anti-insider trading policy. If you learned of what might be material, non-public information while an employee, then got fired/laid off/quit, that only puts you in the clear with respect to the employer's policy (what are they going to do? fire you a second time?) but does not put you in the clear with the SEC.

Re: Twitter Layoff Started Today

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Seriously. I wouldn’t be surprised if the lowest total comp was in excess of $200k/year. If you can’t have 6 months in cash sitting in a high yield savings account on that, there’s no amount of severance that will help you.

I'm financially illiterate. Where can I find a good high yield savings account?

E*TRADE has one with 1.40% right now [0] with a promo [1].

[0]: https://us.etrade.com/bank/premium-savings-account

[1]: https://us.etrade.com/what-we-offer/how-it-works/promo

Re: Twitter Layoff Started Today

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Seriously. I wouldn’t be surprised if the lowest total comp was in excess of $200k/year. If you can’t have 6 months in cash sitting in a high yield savings account on that, there’s no amount of severance that will help you.

Please show me a "high yield savings account" that comes anywhere close to the ongoing >7% inflation.

Treasury Direct Series I Bonds are yielding 9.62% right now. You can't touch the money for a year, but it's great for an emergency fund after 1 year.
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