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Re: When a quarter of the class identifies as trans

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Not only shades of anorexia. Looked at the recovered memory movement in the 90s where unhappy women decided either on their own or with the help of psychologists that the reason for their unhappiness was that they had been sexually abused as an infant and 'suppressed it.' Articles were being published all over the place talking about this "awakening" with claims 1/4 of all women had been abused in this way. Of course, the money to be made on these women wasn't as much and the movement had a natural enemy in the form of the wrongly-accused parents. Now parents are co-opted, "trans son or dead daughter". The mind is incredibly flexible and it's easy to convince kids of just about anything. And young women are extremely vulnerable to suggestion. The whole thing is a total and utter shitshow and extracting ourselves out of this mess is going to be incredibly painful and slow.

Re: When a quarter of the class identifies as trans

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> My daughter’s trans identity started when the school taught a module on ‘identity’ during which they told a group of 11-year-olds that, if you feel uncomfortable in your body, it means you are transgender.

Yeah, I don't believe that happened.

Sex ed books explicitly say things like (quoting https://www.google.com/search?q=puberty+%22uncomfortable+wit... ) "As you go through puberty, you may feel uncomfortable with your body as certain parts are growing and changing shape.", "So the next time you have a “fat day” or feel uncomfortable with your body please remember that both men and women ... ", "Puberty causes a lot of changes to happen in a short amount of time. If you're uncomfortable with your body, you're not alone.", "On top of all that—maybe even more important, from a teen's point of view—it's just not fun to feel uncomfortable with your body."

Why isn't this parent complaining about the lousy quality of the sex education in the kid's school? Or covered this possibility long ago when teaching her about what might happen with puberty?

> Their official policy seems to be to just go with whatever the kids say without informing the parents.

Okay, and so? We had a kid in school who went by the nickname "Moose". Does anyone seriously think the teachers informed the parents of that?

> we are trying to protect our kids ... from having radical surgery on their developing bodies.

Just how many minors are getting 'radical surgery' without their parents consent? Who then is paying for it?

Re: When a quarter of the class identifies as trans

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> My daughter’s trans identity started when the school taught a module on ‘identity’ during which they told a group of 11-year-olds that, if you feel uncomfortable in your body, it means you are transgender. Yeah, I don't believe that happened. Sex ed books explicitly say things like (quoting https://www.google.com/search?q=puberty+%22uncomfortable+wit... ) "As you go through puberty, you may feel uncomfortable with…

> Yeah, I don't believe that happened.

It's not hard to believe that an 11-year-old being taught about transgenderism might come away with "if you feel uncomfortable in your body, it means you are transgender" as the message - even if it wasn't intended by the teacher. Humans of all ages love to believe they have more control than they do and it's easy to imagine how a kid might decide to pursue transgender treatments to try and escape puberty.

> Why isn't this parent complaining about the lousy quality of the sex education in the kid's school?

I'm pretty sure the main point of this blog post was complaining about how her child's school handles sex education, particularly in regards to sexual identity.

> Does anyone seriously think the teachers informed the parents of that?

A nickname with seemingly no derogatory implications is not comparable to the sexual identity of a child.

> Just how many minors are getting 'radical surgery' without their parents consent? Who then is paying for it?

I don't think the implication was that their child would attempt to get surgery on their own. Rather, that they are finding it tough to balance the immediate desires of their child with their own concerns about their child's long-term well being - particularly while the school promotes messages which conflict with their own.

Re: When a quarter of the class identifies as trans

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> My daughter’s trans identity started when the school taught a module on ‘identity’ during which they told a group of 11-year-olds that, if you feel uncomfortable in your body, it means you are transgender. Yeah, I don't believe that happened. Sex ed books explicitly say things like (quoting https://www.google.com/search?q=puberty+%22uncomfortable+wit... ) "As you go through puberty, you may feel uncomfortable with…

> Yeah, I don't believe that happened. It's not hard to believe that an 11-year-old being taught about transgenderism might come away with "if you feel uncomfortable in your body, it means you are transgender" as the message - even if it wasn't intended by the teacher. Humans of all ages love to believe they have more control than they do and it's easy to imagine how a kid might decide to pursue transgender treatment…

The article states:

> My daughter’s trans identity started when the school taught a module on ‘identity’ during which they told a group of 11-year-olds that, if you feel uncomfortable in your body, it means you are transgender.

Not that the daughter came away from school misunderstanding the lesson.

Sex ed shouldn't start after puberty has started.

Re: When a quarter of the class identifies as trans

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Yeah, I don't believe that happened. It's not hard to believe that an 11-year-old being taught about transgenderism might come away with "if you feel uncomfortable in your body, it means you are transgender" as the message - even if it wasn't intended by the teacher. Humans of all ages love to believe they have more control than they do and it's easy to imagine how a kid might decide to pursue transgender treatment…

The article states: > My daughter’s trans identity started when the school taught a module on ‘identity’ during which they told a group of 11-year-olds that, if you feel uncomfortable in your body, it means you are transgender. Not that the daughter came away from school misunderstanding the lesson. Sex ed shouldn't start after puberty has started.

> The article states: [...] Not that the daughter came away from school misunderstanding the lesson.

How is a parent supposed to know exactly what was taught in a particular lesson other than by hearing about it second-hand through their child? From the parent's point of view, it may appear like that is exactly what was taught even if it wasn't.

It would be best for them to verify with the school before writing about it, but this is a rant in a substack blog post. Details like that are not specified.

> Sex ed shouldn't start after puberty has started.

I never said it should.

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