Quite disgusting.
Elon Musk had twins last year with one of his top executives
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Re: Elon Musk had twins last year with one of his top executives
#32Quite disgusting.
Which part?
Re: Elon Musk had twins last year with one of his top executives
#33The ethics of sleeping with your employees aside (which reflects poorly on both parties), Zilis has also been a public-facing Musk supporter. She defends Musk on Twitter and sure, fine, that’s a reasonable thing for you to do for your employer, especially if you work there for the cause. It’s another thing to bear your employer’s children while defending your employer of criticism and talking about his mission to save the human race. Big cult vibes.
Re: Elon Musk had twins last year with one of his top executives
#34Richest man impregnates someone who is hot and willing. Why is this news?
When an unelected person is as powerful as Musk, almost anything he does is newsworthy. It may be nothing, or it may be a warning about the way he will conduct himself when wielding his influence. In this case, it mostly tells us that he doesn't abide by commonly-held moral and professional standards.
He would have achieved common results if he abided by commonly held ideas.
Re: Elon Musk had twins last year with one of his top executives
#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
Elon shouldn't be sleeping or hitting on his employees (see: exposing himself to a flight attendant). She's also on the board of one of his companies and held that position for less than a year before becoming pregnant with his children.
He only comes in contact with his executives. If out of them someone wants to be in a sexual relationship with him, that is their prerogative. A lot of companies have rules to clarify with HR when something like this happens.
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Re: Elon Musk had twins last year with one of his top executives
#36The ethics of sleeping with your employees aside (which reflects poorly on both parties), Zilis has also been a public-facing Musk supporter. She defends Musk on Twitter and sure, fine, that’s a reasonable thing for you to do for your employer, especially if you work there for the cause. It’s another thing to bear your employer’s children while defending your employer of criticism and talking about his mission to sav…
"The ethics of sleeping with your employees aside (which reflects poorly on both parties)"
I utterly despise the trend we are going towards where more and more organic relationships like this are judged to be morally wrong -- and such judgement is cast without knowing any details whatsoever -- and everyone is being herded into dating apps, being bred algorithmcally and are pitted against others of the same gender into a narcissistic and dystopian performance game.
If Elon and Shivon are both willing and consenting, then I say screw the uptight moral busy-bodies in this thread and elsewhere, trying to enforce their in vogue morality on two people who are harming nobody by doing what they've done, and good on them for doing what they both want in their own private lives and ignoring the judgemental onlookers. It's hard to work against unjust social scorn.
Re: Elon Musk had twins last year with one of his top executives
#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
When an unelected person is as powerful as Musk, almost anything he does is newsworthy. It may be nothing, or it may be a warning about the way he will conduct himself when wielding his influence. In this case, it mostly tells us that he doesn't abide by commonly-held moral and professional standards.
He would have achieved common results if he abided by commonly held ideas.
So only unscrupulous people succeed, right? That's what you're implying.
You assume I care about Musk's success. Being unethical is a big part of it, sure.
But if I could choose for Musk to be a failure, I would. He hasn't done anything that benefited me, and now he's determined to do things that are actively harmful (removing safeguards at Twitter, pushing "FSD" alpha software onto roads, supporting authoritarian politicians in the US).
Re: Elon Musk had twins last year with one of his top executives
#38The ethics of sleeping with your employees aside (which reflects poorly on both parties), Zilis has also been a public-facing Musk supporter. She defends Musk on Twitter and sure, fine, that’s a reasonable thing for you to do for your employer, especially if you work there for the cause. It’s another thing to bear your employer’s children while defending your employer of criticism and talking about his mission to sav…
"The ethics of sleeping with your employees aside (which reflects poorly on both parties)" It should not. This new culture of no relationships at work is extremely off-putting. Work is one of the best places to meet potential spouses, even if there is a "power differential" between them. Some of the most healthy and happy relationships I've seen have been between people who got together under a so-called "power diffe…
The conflict of interest alone makes this untenable. After this, no one should want to work under Elon Musk knowing his ethical standard.
Re: Elon Musk had twins last year with one of his top executives
#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
Are you asking why not have sex with your subordinate? A whole slew of moral and legal reasons, for one.
Who said they had sex? IVF, twins, triplets, twins again…
It's not about sex. It's about conflict of interest and the lengths an employee might need to go in order to gain their employers favor. This is incredibly invasive -- highly unethical implicit standards were made.
Re: Elon Musk had twins last year with one of his top executives
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
Elon shouldn't be sleeping or hitting on his employees (see: exposing himself to a flight attendant). She's also on the board of one of his companies and held that position for less than a year before becoming pregnant with his children.
He only comes in contact with his executives. If out of them someone wants to be in a sexual relationship with him, that is their prerogative. A lot of companies have rules to clarify with HR when something like this happens.
In the corporate world, this is completely untenable, unethical behavior because of the conflict of interest that Musk has with her as a subordinate.