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Japan to start jailing people for online insults

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Re: Japan to start jailing people for online insults

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Here in Germany we once had a guy have his apartment raided by 6 cops because he wrote a tweet to a local politician that said "You're such a dick". That's all he said.

Do you have some article related to this I could read ?

Germany is really similar to Japan in that it’s exterior seems very different to what’s going on internally.

Re: Japan to start jailing people for online insults

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9000 yen? It does seem like if you’re going to have the law in the first place a fine that cheap sort of undercuts it. The crime enters the news, and then everyone sees the fine is less than the cost of a special edition fancy blu ray of her wrestling.

Just wait until someone indults an elected official.

‘Elected official’, appointed by default

Re: Japan to start jailing people for online insults

#13

Here in Germany we once had a guy have his apartment raided by 6 cops because he wrote a tweet to a local politician that said "You're such a dick". That's all he said.

Do you have some article related to this I could read ? Germany is really similar to Japan in that it’s exterior seems very different to what’s going on internally.

I don't know of any in English; here's a German one. https://m.tagesspiegel.de/politik/pimmelgate-um-andy-grote-t...

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Re: Japan to start jailing people for online insults

#14

There should be some actual culpability for making decisions this obviously wrong.

How is it wrong? If you are a public figure getting bombarded with death wishes/threats or vile comments about how someone will kill and mutilate your family what are you supposed to do just take it? There has to be consequences for people like that, like there are in real life.

Re: Japan to start jailing people for online insults

#15

There should be some actual culpability for making decisions this obviously wrong.

How is it wrong? If you are a public figure getting bombarded with death wishes/threats or vile comments about how someone will kill and mutilate your family what are you supposed to do just take it? There has to be consequences for people like that, like there are in real life.

The issue, as the article says, is that the law doesn't define what an insult is. That means that a death threat or saying "you're stupid" could potentially both be prosecuted under this law.

Re: Japan to start jailing people for online insults

#16

There should be some actual culpability for making decisions this obviously wrong.

How is it wrong? If you are a public figure getting bombarded with death wishes/threats or vile comments about how someone will kill and mutilate your family what are you supposed to do just take it? There has to be consequences for people like that, like there are in real life.

A death threat is clearly different from an insult. And I'm not sure why you lump death wishes in with threat. Those are also clearly different.

Re: Japan to start jailing people for online insults

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you have some article related to this I could read ? Germany is really similar to Japan in that it’s exterior seems very different to what’s going on internally.

I don't know of any in English; here's a German one. https://m.tagesspiegel.de/politik/pimmelgate-um-andy-grote-t... I

English version, thanks to Google translate

https://m-tagesspiegel-de.translate.goog/politik/pimmelgate-...

Re: Japan to start jailing people for online insults

#18

There should be some actual culpability for making decisions this obviously wrong.

How is it wrong? If you are a public figure getting bombarded with death wishes/threats or vile comments about how someone will kill and mutilate your family what are you supposed to do just take it? There has to be consequences for people like that, like there are in real life.

>“At the moment, even if someone calls the leader of Japan an idiot, then maybe under the revised law that could be classed as an insult,” Cho said.

You think someone who calls their leader an idiot should be jailed?

Re: Japan to start jailing people for online insults

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is it wrong? If you are a public figure getting bombarded with death wishes/threats or vile comments about how someone will kill and mutilate your family what are you supposed to do just take it? There has to be consequences for people like that, like there are in real life.

>“At the moment, even if someone calls the leader of Japan an idiot, then maybe under the revised law that could be classed as an insult,” Cho said. You think someone who calls their leader an idiot should be jailed?

" MATTHIAS: Look. I-- I'd had a lovely supper, and all I said to my wife was, 'That piece of halibut was good enough for Jehovah.'

CROWD: Oooooh!

OFFICIAL: Blasphemy! He's said it again!"

Re: Japan to start jailing people for online insults

#20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is it wrong? If you are a public figure getting bombarded with death wishes/threats or vile comments about how someone will kill and mutilate your family what are you supposed to do just take it? There has to be consequences for people like that, like there are in real life.

A death threat is clearly different from an insult. And I'm not sure why you lump death wishes in with threat. Those are also clearly different.

No they are not. At least not in the so called civilised countries.
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