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Increased Subscription Pricing for IDEs, .NET Tools, and the All Products Pack

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Re: Increased Subscription Pricing for IDEs, .NET Tools, and the All Products Pack

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Post by innocenat »

drdec wrote: post #145
mmastrac wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think IntelliJ has added support for running non-compiling Java code yet, which was a major productivity booster for me. Eclipse's ability to debug and run a single failing unit test were massive as well. IntelliJ was always hit or miss as to whether it would allow you to run a subset. IntelliJ refactorings also were a lot less smart IMO - often trying to refactor unrelated comments and sometimes code that wa…

> running non-compiling Java code yet I don't mean to sound rude here, but that just sounds like nonsense to me. How are you supposed to run code that won't compile? Does eclipse just generate random bytecodes for the party that doesn't compile? > debug and run a single failing unit test I'm not sure where the issue is for you, but this has always been available since I have used IntelliJ, going back 15 years.

Eclipse normally use its own compiler, JDT Core, which support many features Oracle JDK doesn't.

https://www.eclipse.org/jdt/core/

> An incremental Java compiler. Implemented as an Eclipse builder, it is based on technology evolved from VisualAge for Java compiler. In particular, it allows to run and debug code which still contains unresolved errors.

Re: Increased Subscription Pricing for IDEs, .NET Tools, and the All Products Pack

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Post by calcifer »

rvz wrote: post #79

This comes as no surprise and was in fact expected by Jetbrains. Each time they increase prices, VSCode becomes more attractive to developers. On top of that, Microsoft is doing a very clever pricing scam as I said before [0]; by making their base tools free and charging for exquisite features in VSCode like Copilot. On other editors, either you use a barebones editor and pay for Copilot or you pay for both copilot a…

> Each time they increase prices

They have never increased subscription prices. They still charge the same amount they did 7 years ago, when subscriptions were introduced.

Re: Increased Subscription Pricing for IDEs, .NET Tools, and the All Products Pack

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Post by spacemanmatt »

mmastrac wrote: post #60

The heavier IDEs are in real trouble given the impressive state of VS Code lately. I haven't found the need to reach for a bigger IDE than Code in a while and I've been perfectly productive in JS, C, Rust and Python projects lately. Do yourself a favour and try out Code for your next project.

I tried it and I think it sucks. JetBrains FTW.

Re: Increased Subscription Pricing for IDEs, .NET Tools, and the All Products Pack

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Post by spacemanmatt »

mmastrac wrote: post #78
valcron1000 wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's no comparison between using VSCode and IntelliJ for Java development

There's Eclipse too. It was almost always the better IDE for pure Java development. IntelliJ was always heavier and buggier whenever I tried using it.

I don't remember when that was true. JetBrains conveniently outclasses Eclipse these days.

Re: Increased Subscription Pricing for IDEs, .NET Tools, and the All Products Pack

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Post by heartbreak »

heelix wrote: post #31
Semaphor wrote: post #7

That’s actually not that bad. The All-products pack goes is only getting 24€ (pre-tax) more expensive per year for me.

On the corp side, the bump is enough that this becomes problematic. Going from $650 to $780 for that first year is going to cause all sorts of "but what about free" conversations next week. Argh.

I have yet to meet a company that cares about $130 (or even $1,300) in expenses for a productivity tool like this. Maybe that’s because I wouldn’t work for one that did.

Re: Increased Subscription Pricing for IDEs, .NET Tools, and the All Products Pack

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Post by duckmysick »

rvz wrote: post #79

This comes as no surprise and was in fact expected by Jetbrains. Each time they increase prices, VSCode becomes more attractive to developers. On top of that, Microsoft is doing a very clever pricing scam as I said before [0]; by making their base tools free and charging for exquisite features in VSCode like Copilot. On other editors, either you use a barebones editor and pay for Copilot or you pay for both copilot a…

> Microsoft knows you can't beat free.

That doesn't explain why Windows and Office (both paid products) have edge over desktop Linux and LibreOffice (free).

Re: Increased Subscription Pricing for IDEs, .NET Tools, and the All Products Pack

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Post by [deleted] »

mmastrac wrote: post #60

The heavier IDEs are in real trouble given the impressive state of VS Code lately. I haven't found the need to reach for a bigger IDE than Code in a while and I've been perfectly productive in JS, C, Rust and Python projects lately. Do yourself a favour and try out Code for your next project.

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Re: Increased Subscription Pricing for IDEs, .NET Tools, and the All Products Pack

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Post by [deleted] »

mmastrac wrote: post #60

The heavier IDEs are in real trouble given the impressive state of VS Code lately. I haven't found the need to reach for a bigger IDE than Code in a while and I've been perfectly productive in JS, C, Rust and Python projects lately. Do yourself a favour and try out Code for your next project.

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