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Why isn't the internet more fun and weird? (2019)

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Re: Why isn't the internet more fun and weird? (2019)

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I remember the thousands of interesting and weird pages listed on StumbleUpon - directories of obscure topics, avant garde art projects and detailed field specific blogs - many of them both pretty and thoroughly made. Mind expanding stuff. I feel like today all of that has moved to silos like tiktok and instagram, in extreme short form formats that are easily disposable - so almost no one creates truly great "compila…

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Re: Why isn't the internet more fun and weird? (2019)

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Everyone has become a sellout. When I was growing up this was considered a bad thing. Today it’s a virtue.

I feel like the pendulum is swinging back. Interest rates, rent, housing and commodity prices are up, so discretionary spending will almost certainly be lower. Could that reduce demand for marketing and advertising in general? Maybe the tighter market will drive up demand for more aggressive data capture? Where does all that leave social sites and content creators who but their empire selling fast fashion an overpric…

I doubt it will for marketing in general. It is a real red queen's race/prisoner's dilemma. Now discretionary spending can and will go down in a recession even among those who could afford it. Due to the gaucheness of showing off during bad times (ironically making things worse if taken in a vacuum).

Re: Why isn't the internet more fun and weird? (2019)

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All the fun and weird people either get:

ignored, banned, de-platformed, censored , ridiculed, etc. So you end up with dozens of the same Vox and NYTs pieces about the same dozen subjects written in the same style, because those are the only things that survive the filter.

Re: Why isn't the internet more fun and weird? (2019)

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I remember the thousands of interesting and weird pages listed on StumbleUpon - directories of obscure topics, avant garde art projects and detailed field specific blogs - many of them both pretty and thoroughly made. Mind expanding stuff. I feel like today all of that has moved to silos like tiktok and instagram, in extreme short form formats that are easily disposable - so almost no one creates truly great "compila…

Here's a site I like to link whenever this discussion comes up (not associated): https://wiby.me I love hopping in and hitting the "surprise me" every once in a while, and reading some obscure webpage written by an actual person with a passion for a subject. In the past I've seen a site dedicated to the soundtrack for a film series (I can't remember which), not even necessarily streaming the soundtrack or something,…

* Got a crappy knock-off Dustin Diamond page that wasn't official and looked like it was the result of a 12 year old and a copy of MS Frontpage and a case of Jolt Cola. * A "furniture porn" site that was horrific. Not the modern usage where it's a lot of photos of nice furniture, the other interpretation. No humans, just weird ass pictures of chairs. * Then something actually good: http://marc.merlins.org/linux/refundday/ Apparently there was a Windows Refund day in 1999 where *nix users could get a refund for the copy of Windows that came in their PC.

Re: Why isn't the internet more fun and weird? (2019)

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Here's a site I like to link whenever this discussion comes up (not associated): https://wiby.me I love hopping in and hitting the "surprise me" every once in a while, and reading some obscure webpage written by an actual person with a passion for a subject. In the past I've seen a site dedicated to the soundtrack for a film series (I can't remember which), not even necessarily streaming the soundtrack or something,…

Wow this is fantastic! Landed on some HAM radio operator's personal text-only site and then a site about birds in some far off place in Nova Scotia: http://www.capebretonbirds.ca/ .

Serendipity, I am in Nova Scotia right now and heading out to Cape Brenton tomorrow! I will keep an eye out for some of those birds!

Re: Why isn't the internet more fun and weird? (2019)

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post #78
post #9

I remember the thousands of interesting and weird pages listed on StumbleUpon - directories of obscure topics, avant garde art projects and detailed field specific blogs - many of them both pretty and thoroughly made. Mind expanding stuff. I feel like today all of that has moved to silos like tiktok and instagram, in extreme short form formats that are easily disposable - so almost no one creates truly great "compila…

Here's a site I like to link whenever this discussion comes up (not associated): https://wiby.me I love hopping in and hitting the "surprise me" every once in a while, and reading some obscure webpage written by an actual person with a passion for a subject. In the past I've seen a site dedicated to the soundtrack for a film series (I can't remember which), not even necessarily streaming the soundtrack or something,…

I got this http://nothings.org/writing/websucks.html so fascinating in 2004 the web already suck

Re: Why isn't the internet more fun and weird? (2019)

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Everyone has become a sellout. When I was growing up this was considered a bad thing. Today it’s a virtue.

Frankly it always struck me as kind of insane that it was considered a bad thing. Especially since the definition of selling out seemed to consist of any and everything while not being successful. Was it some hippie movement vestige or something?

As far as I can tell, selling out has always been a subjective thing and has always been directed towards those who turn their back on principles for personal gain. Of course, everyone has a different idea of what those principles are so pretty much everyone who is sucessful gets branded as a sellout by someone. While some of this may be a vestige of the hippie movement, I suspect most of it is not.

Re: Why isn't the internet more fun and weird? (2019)

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All the fun and weird stuff is still around, it just typically doesn't SEO well and doesn't show up on Google, and is too long-tail to show up on popularity-based algorithms like those of Reddit or Facebook. I've spent the last year or so building tools and algorithms specifically to dig up "fun and weird". It's still there: https://search.marginalia.nu/explore/random

Awesome. I think there's a huge need for a search engine filtering out commercial content. It's basically just all spam. Recently I wanted to find information on hacking a device I had obtained - but of course any search query I could throw at search engines only yielded ways to buy it or low-effort reviews. I tried marginalia but it seems like the index wasn't quite large enough for my purpose yet.

Consider trying Kagi. (I first started using it while it was still in closed beta, but I am not otherwise affiliated with them. I am very satisfied with it so far.)

Re: Why isn't the internet more fun and weird? (2019)

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Got this link: https://mebious.neocities.org/Layer/Wierd.html It's a Thought Experiments Lain website P.S. There absolutely is definitely going to be sound coming through speakers. Fair heads up.

I really enjoy that the Lain fans are not slowing down in the slightest with their love for Lain.

I'm fairly certain this is a really old site...
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