Ruby Shield: Shopify donates $1M to stewards of rubygems, bundler

Post by LAC-Tech » Wed, Jul 06, 2022, 10:16 PM UTC

notpachet wrote: post #40

thallium205 wrote: post #33

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If it's not the fault of the ecosystem or the language then why is it in decline?

I actually think it's both. The language: Tech companies are becoming more aware of the dangers posed by maintaining and updating large codebases written in an untyped language. I know there's a lot of work still being done in Rubyland on this problem but it feels like the horse left the barn long ago. A lot of Rubyists seem aesthetically opposed to types, including influential language stewards. Sorbet is arguably t…

Post by jacques_chester » Wed, Jul 06, 2022, 10:17 PM UTC

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We work hard to be. We posted an accompanying blog post about how we see our place in OSS: https://shopify.engineering/shopify-open-source-philosophy

Your HN handle been a pretty vocal ambassador of Pivotal/VMware Tanzu on a lot of threads that the employee-employer association has become permanent in my lizard brain, which is why I had to do a double-take when I read your comment [plus the fact that I'm up a bit late ...] It only just dawned on me that you might have switched your employer allegiance to Shopify :)

Post by ayewo » Wed, Jul 06, 2022, 10:40 PM UTC

jacques_chester wrote: post #74

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Your HN handle been a pretty vocal ambassador of Pivotal/VMware Tanzu on a lot of threads that the employee-employer association has become permanent in my lizard brain, which is why I had to do a double-take when I read your comment [plus the fact that I'm up a bit late ...] It only just dawned on me that you might have switched your employer allegiance to Shopify :)

I was vocally at Pivotal->VMware for a total of 7 years, so a reasonable enough association to form. I've been at Shopify for a little over a year now.

Post by asciiresort » Wed, Jul 06, 2022, 10:45 PM UTC

cosmiccatnap wrote: post #50

They have also laid off a bunch of their employees today...

Post by codex_irl » Wed, Jul 06, 2022, 10:57 PM UTC

zdragnar wrote: post #43

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I actually think it's both. The language: Tech companies are becoming more aware of the dangers posed by maintaining and updating large codebases written in an untyped language. I know there's a lot of work still being done in Rubyland on this problem but it feels like the horse left the barn long ago. A lot of Rubyists seem aesthetically opposed to types, including influential language stewards. Sorbet is arguably t…

To wit, a personal anecdote: My tiny company is torn between throwing out our ruby code and trying to hire more ruby developers. Our senior ruby guy is leaving, and the one senior candidate we had accepted, then later rejected, our offer. Of the other interviews we have had, candidates were asking for too much (i.e. over $200k base salary) and often barely qualified as a senior, or were simply too inexperienced to re…