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Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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Post by z9znz »

grandmczeb wrote: post #540
z9znz wrote: post #501

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I don't know much about this topic, but I have read that the RAM in M1/M2 machines is part of the Mx chip itself. Unless I misunderstand, I don't believe it's any kind of separate component - stick or otherwise.

This is incorrect, just looking at the M2 promotional materials the DRAM is quite clearly a separate component[1]. The DRAM modules are combined with the M2 in a single package though, maybe that's what you're thinking of? [1] https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2022/06/apple-unveils-m2-with...

Ahh ok, so it's not on the same die, but it's on the same package. Thus, it's not exactly something you can configure after the fact. In advance of configuration and sale, Apple has to decide to commit to some assortment of M2+RAM configurations.

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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Post by shakezula »

simondotau wrote: post #313
geerlingguy wrote: post #250

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Their Mac business is still a Fortune 500 company in terms of revenue by itself. Besides Halo effect, they still make a ton of money off Macs, and now that their chips cross pollinate with the iOS devices, it makes no sense to kill it off.

Not to mention, the Mac platform is effectively the SDK for the iOS/iPadOS platform. And it's a thing which pretty much every single person who works at Apple uses on a daily basis. The Mac is not — I assure you — going anywhere.

Especially not after they made this push into their own silicon where the majority of the benefits reaped so far have been in the Mac line.

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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Post by hajile »

dr_zoidberg wrote: post #203
DoughnutHole wrote: post #189

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I find it very hard to believe that Apple deliberately sabotaged a multi-billion dollar product line for ~5 years in order to (possibly?) boost sales when their incredibly risky and expensive investment into their own silicon came to market. People have been shitting on MacBooks since they removed MagSafe and brought in the butterfly keyboard in 2016. The i9 Pros with massive thermal issues came out in 2018. That's a…

> I wouldn't ascribe to malice what can be more easily be ascribed to incompetence While I usually agree with the sentiment, it's hard to believe that one of the most successful companies in the world can be subject to such levels of incompetence on one of their flagship products.

Given the turnaround that happened when Ives left, I can definitely ascribe a lot of the problems to his push of form over function. Steve Jobs could set him straight in a way that Tim Cook apparently could not.

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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Post by privacyking »

oynqr wrote: post #487
jeffhuys wrote: post #300

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Oh, man, you're in for a treat. Make sure to enable Handoff - copy on your phone (Google Authenticator, for example), CMD+V on your laptop. CMD+Tab to something on your phone (a Safari tab, for instance) from your laptop, and vice versa. A lot of other neat stuff awaits you!

It's not like you can't do that with Android, though.

Don't be silly. Everyone knows apple invented that /s

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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Post by pc86 »

pleb_nz wrote: post #566
throwaway894345 wrote: post #476

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Just to put things into perspective, the 2019 MBP might be worse than M1 Macs, but it's still way better than anything I've seen in the PC world (which is why Macs have been able to coast through bad decisions regarding keyboard, ports, and touchbar for so many years). That said, I'm very excited for these new ARM devices.

Last I heard a Mac is a PC. Hey even phones are PCs. They're all personal computers. In fact I would say mac's are more often PC then windows machines. Windows machines are often not personal and are used my many people in big orgs in a shared corporate fashion.

Oh man it's been a while since I've seen this particular flavor of needless pedantry. What a blast from the past!

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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Post by unicornporn »

hardlianotion wrote: post #170
pavlov wrote: post #148

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The 2016 MacBook Pro was a turd. The butterfly keyboard would inevitably break. I went through several of these laptops. To add insult to the injury, this model's unique innovations were "Touch Bar" and "no ports"... I've been buying Macs since 2000, and the 2016 MBP is definitely the worst Mac I ever had. It was enough to drive me to purchase a Surface Book as an alternative.

The 16" Macbook pro I bought in 2019 has been a source of constant irritation to me - unexpected fan thrashing, overheating, the usual stuff - and the performance and low cost of the new M1-based MacBooks has done nothing to improve my mood.

> The 16" Macbook pro I bought in 2019 has been a source of constant irritation to me

This. Worst Mac I've ever had to use.

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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Post by rewgs »

drunner wrote: post #458

Is there anything out there that can run linux that has battery life like this? I'm debating just getting one and running a linux VM full time in it.

That’s what I’m doing — I use Canonical’s Multipass and it’s flawless.

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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Post by 2muchcoffeeman »

throw34 wrote: post #415
conductr wrote: post #392

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Wonder how long these M chips were in R&D and meanwhile they were just watching everyone on the internet complain how crappy mac laptops were but they knew this was coming

Probably somewhere around two years before the M1 announcement is when development started. It’s a lot of work to design one of these parts. https://anysilicon.com/asic-design-flow-ultimate-guide/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/antonyleather/2019/07/26/intel-...

Intel - 4 years.

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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Post by H12 »

I want a 15" version of this hardware so badly. It would be my perfect personal webdev machine, assuming no significant M2 thermal issues.

My workflows are all lightly threaded and CPU bound, so I don't benefit much from the Pro/Max/Ultra SKUs. So considering the base M1/M2 meets my performance needs, nothing else really comes close when it comes to portability/battery life.

All I really crave is a bit more screen real estate.

I do really hope the competition catches up and we start to see more open alternatives that approach the same perf-per-watt. As it stands, there just isn't anything else I've seen that offers a comparable experience to one of these Apple Silicon machines.

My personal endgame would be an ARM/RISC-V Linux machine from a company like Framework, but I feel like that's a ways off.

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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Post by jcmontx »

april_22 wrote: post #548
Aperocky wrote: post #419

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M1 owner but since 2020, so probably the among the longest users. I'm tempted. I also think 3nm is going to beset with production problems, I don't think it's coming around anytime near.

I am reading that alot of users had issues with the 8gig model. If you have 8gigs, did you experience any perfomance issues?

Yeah, I have the M1 2020 with 8gigs and 512ssd. I encounter some issues when I use it for development.
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