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Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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Post by whynaut »

rolleiflex wrote: post #469
eropple wrote: post #362

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For what it's worth--when I had an 8GB Air, decoding video in a browser didn't seem to really impact performance. Plugging in an external monitor, though, was not a fun time.

I have a 32Gb M1 Pro as a work laptop and connecting a retina 4K external display is not a fun experience for me either. It was very surprising to see it fail to maintain 60fps in the OS’ own animations.

Are you using the built-in HDMI port, or a dongle? I had the same issue before switching off the dongle.

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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Post by smoldesu »

pleb_nz wrote: post #562
maccard wrote: post #553

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Curious what you'd buy instead?

I had a Lenovo P15 before my current M1Pro. That thing was a machine. I got roughly the same battery life through day of dev work, got to choose my OS, it did everything perfectly. Only thing it lacked on imo was looks. So yeah, in my experience, there are other laptops out there that are as good.

I used to work on the similar P51, definitely a nice device for Unix work. I also keep a maxed-out T460s around as a handy little notebook for programming and photo editing. Not as powerful as the P51, but the design feels like a refinement of the "manila envelope" Macbook Airs. Lenovo hardware is starting to find it's footing again, though there's still a number of really Lovecraftian devices they made in the early 2010s (T440p, anyone? How about an X240?).

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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Post by tails4e »

Pulcinella wrote: post #450
pc86 wrote: post #401

I spent an embarrassing amount on a lackluster early 2019 MBP. It's fine as a general purpose laptop but is just a little too slow for serious dev work, a little too heavy as the main travel laptop, battery life a little too short for my liking. I got an M1 for my work laptop maybe 4 months ago and it might honestly be the best laptop I've ever used.

In a somewhat similar situation with the 2019 16 inch Intel MBP. I wouldn't say it's too slow, but it does get embarrassingly hot during regular use. Enabling low power mode disables turbo boost and keeps it much, much cooler, but plugging into an external monitor enables the discrete graphics card and the laptop gets hot again. Going to try to get a few more years out of it hopefully until Imagination Tech's hardwar…

I switched from windows/dell to a 2019 16inch MBP Intel for work as I wanted everything MBPs promised, especially battery life. I was very dissapointed that I get about 2 hours on battery, but I suspect its mostly due to the MS office apps. Is this improved on the M1 versions? Surely high cpu usage there will still waste battery pretty quickly?

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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Post by tootie »

carlycue wrote: post #39

This thing is going to sell like hotcakes. The combination of single core CPU and graphics performance, device thinness, battery life in this laptop is unmatched. It’s funny how Apple came back from the worst the Mac has ever been to the best in a span of few years. Johnny I’ve doesn’t dictate things around Apple anymore but the silicone chips team now does.

I wager that 90% of PC buyers don't really look at specs at all and just always buy the latest Mac regardless.

And that 90% of that 90% won't really benefit much from the advanced specs. I had an 11" Chromebook with a Celeron processor for 6 years. Cost less than $200 and weighed almost nothing. If I wasn't coding or gaming, it was the best PC I ever owned.

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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Post by shanusmagnus »

geerlingguy wrote: post #250
dcolkitt wrote: post #220

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Aren't Macs basically a rounding error for the overall company?

Their Mac business is still a Fortune 500 company in terms of revenue by itself. Besides Halo effect, they still make a ton of money off Macs, and now that their chips cross pollinate with the iOS devices, it makes no sense to kill it off.

Yup. If for some reason Apple didn't make computers, don't think I'd own an iPhone -- the whole ecosystem fitting together is a major part of the appeal for me.

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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Post by dang »

thrwawy283 wrote: post #75

I want it, but I'm not getting it until all the hardware works under Linux. MacOS is great, but someday they will stop updating MacOS for this. I see it as a device with incredible longevity because of the fanless thermals and how it sips energy. I could see myself using it 10 years later. I want to run MacOS or Fedora Silverblue, with Silverblue being my true love. Immutable OS images HAH, downvoted in seconds. Woul…

> HAH, downvoted in seconds. Would not be surprised if there are Apple employees brigading this.

You broke more than one site guideline with this. Would you please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here? We'd appreciate it.

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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Post by nostrademons »

hedgehog wrote: post #393
ch4s3 wrote: post #352

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That feels like it cuts against the core of the f what Apple is, but it’s possible if Cook is succeeded by someone with no connection to old leadership.

They've built pieces of that already: https://developer.apple.com/xcode-cloud/ I'm not personally very excited about living inside that sealed of a bubble.

It's outsourcing a key part of the Apple ecosystem to Google (Chrome), which is why Apple will never do it. Big-tech companies go to extremely great lengths to own every part of the pathway from consumer to developer to hardware. Google first developed a browser, then an OS, then a hardware division just so Microsoft couldn't sit between Search and a microchip. Similarly, Apple has worked extremely hard to develop an App Store, IDE (XCode), and developer machine (Mac) so that neither Google nor Microsoft can come between them and the developer.

Facebook is currently paying the price of not owning their distribution infrastructure - they've been hurt extremely badly by recent privacy changes that Apple and Google have put out, while Apple and Google themselves have been relatively isolated from them.

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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Post by Keyframe »

foldr wrote: post #529
zitterbewegung wrote: post #427

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When Linus Tech tips did a review and tear down of the last Intel MacBook Air the design had no heat pipe and was just passively cooled. The first MacBook Air with the M1 design was equivalent but with an updated motherboard that had an M1. The A12Z in the DTK is derived from the A12 which came out in 2018 so it probably was earlier than that.

None of the Intel MacBook Airs were passively cooled. They all had fans.

There was a Macbook however that was passively cooled.

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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Post by tokamak-teapot »

importantbrian wrote: post #523
pc86 wrote: post #401

I spent an embarrassing amount on a lackluster early 2019 MBP. It's fine as a general purpose laptop but is just a little too slow for serious dev work, a little too heavy as the main travel laptop, battery life a little too short for my liking. I got an M1 for my work laptop maybe 4 months ago and it might honestly be the best laptop I've ever used.

I have a 2019 pro and my wife got an M1 air and every time I use her computer for anything I kick myself for not waiting a year and getting an M1 for myself.

The resale value of that 2019 will be high. I don’t know the safest place to sell them though. Recommendations welcome! EBay just fills me with dread.
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