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Re: Tell HN: Razorpay a YC company shared donor data under a Section 91 order

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Post by mrguyorama »

Clubber wrote: post #86
jeswin wrote: post #69

Here's what happened: - Nupur Sharma, spokesperson of the governing party (BJP) mocks Prophet Mohammed on National TV saying that he had sex with a 9 year old. She then justifies it saying she was quoting the Hadith (Islamic religious texts). - ZooBear on Twitter brings attention to the issue, via his channel AltNews - India gets international condemnation, Gulf countries are pissed - India apologizes to various Gulf…

Whenever I think US politics have gone off the rails, it's perhaps comforting to see other countries are way worse.

Except this kind of system (significant nepotism, open corruption, a government that people mostly don't have faith in, strongly charged with religious fervor and rhetoric) Is pretty much exactly what the more aggressive parts of the American Right are literally trying to make happen.

Oh, and they are succeeding spectacularly.

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Post by methusala8 »

smashah wrote: post #111
methusala8 wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And India will reciprocate by boycotting all those countries which try to do this. But you are starting a new type of apartheid.

As is your right. It will need to start from the individual level so I will be encouraging everyone around me to limit their exposure to Indian businesses.

You can do whatever the F you want. I do not care. Neither do most people in this world.

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Post by InitialLastName »

ridiculous_leke wrote: post #231
devin wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure what you’re referring to. A majority certainly does not approve of overturning Roe, quite the opposite.

Are there any legitimate polls to back this up? An average American on the internet is probably against the ruling, but that still doesn't mean that the majority of Americans are against it. If that was the case, we should have either seen pressure building up on "pro-life" states or a BLM style movement in favor of legalizing abortion. But I don't see neither.

> Are there any legitimate polls to back this up?

A number of legitimate polls have found substantial majorities/pluralities opposing the ruling [0].

> should have either seen pressure building up on "pro-life" states

On the one hand, I've definitely seen this pressure at the grassroots. On the other hand, there has probably been significant geographic sorting, especially as the states that are leaning towards de jure abortion bans have been trending that way de facto for years, likely driving people that care about the issue to friendlier states.

> or a BLM style movement in favor of legalizing abortion.

Give it a minute, abortion was a legally protected right until 2 weeks ago.

[0] https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/americans-views-on-abor...

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Post by jasonlotito »

mehlmao wrote: post #149
jasonlotito wrote: post #127

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In polls they don't, but in practice, the majority voted for this outcome.

Democratic candidates won the popular vote in 2000, 2008, 2012, 2016, and 2020.

Sorry, but those are people who went to the polls. Those who could vote but did not go to the polls voted for the winner. Voting by abstaining is still voting. If you include the voting population that did not vote in the tally, they effectively voted for this outcome.

And before you complain, that's exactly what I was talking about. That's what we are talking about.

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Post by mellavora »

samstave wrote: post #244
mellavora wrote: post #192

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How is this working against civil forfeiture? How is this working against the % of the population incarcerated? disclaimer: gun owner and competitive sport shooter.

Personally, am convinced that the second amendment was co-opted to be a wedge-issue in that ; it actively separates groups, fills the media with plenty of wedge-based fluff while allowing them to skirt around the deeper truths etc. My grandpa always used to say: >> I will never say "I am a gun owner" -- Personally EVERYONE should know how to properly handle a gun. ESPECIALLY if you "hate guns" /rant.

Your grandpa has more wisdom than I do.

And yes, the 2nd was certainly co-opted. It is how politics is played; there is a very long list of co-opted issues which were not divisive before they became useful for politics.

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Post by [deleted] »

mrguyorama wrote: post #253
the_biot wrote: post #196

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That sure is a lot of nonsense. What we see in the US is the government, in the form of the police, abuses the people plenty. That's why there's so much protest when they actually kill people. And are people arming themselves more to protect themselves from the police? No.

More importantly, the second amendment will not protect you from police. Many legally carrying innocent people have been shot and killed by the police, and there are very few cases of people defending themselves from a police officer and not going to jail

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Post by airocker »

For those judging Indian government through these comments should understand that majority of Indians are happy with the government and elections in India are as fair as in the USA :) . The ones who are unhappy with the government and feel disempowered are more motivated to post in a forum where someone would read their grievances.

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Post by thealig »

airocker wrote: post #267

For those judging Indian government through these comments should understand that majority of Indians are happy with the government and elections in India are as fair as in the USA :) . The ones who are unhappy with the government and feel disempowered are more motivated to post in a forum where someone would read their grievances.

The "majority" of Indians watch and read from a small set of media outlets, most of them biased pro-government news media which feed only news showing the Indian government and authorities in a positive light while completely leaving out their problems. Basically, news confirming their biases.

Critical journalism is pretty much marginal and niche - these outlets are fewer because there are very little incentives. There are a few like NDTV and Dainik bhaskar, who routinely face sanctions by governmental bodies for not sticking to the governmental narrative.

Unfortunately Indian society specially due to how educational systems are structured do not encourage any questioning of authority and unable to point out criticisms specially in public Easier to stay happier with blind acceptance of information when you barely know whats happening in detail beyond the governments successes.

Even the elections are not without fault, primarily in the working of the Election commission and how free and fair they are (specially in Kashmir) so I doubt your statement about fairness.

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Post by msravi »

Ok, providing a little context here about how this played out.

1. A group of Hindu women petition a court for the right to (continue) worship at (what is now) the Gyanvapi mosque

2. The court orders that a survey of the mosque be carried out to determine if there is a historical locus standii for the petition

3. Videos of the survey reveal what appears to be a Shiva linga in a pond used for ablutions

4. Heated TV debates on prime time about the find. In one such debate a muslim cleric makes derogatory references to Shiva. In response a spokesperson of the ruling BJP, Nupur Sharma, says Prophet Mohammed married a girl of 6 and consumated the relationship when she was 9.

5. Zubair Mohammed of Altnews, begins a tweetstorm against Nupur Sharma and the channel for hurting muslim sentiments by making derogatory references to the prophet

6. Nupur Sharma says she is receiving threats due to Zubair's call and goes into hiding. Police on the lookout to arrest her for offending religious sentiments

7. Several videos posted demanding that she be killed and processions with "Sar tan se juda" slogans taken out (separate head from body)

8. Several also post "IStandWithNupur" in her support on social media. One such person is a tailor named Khanaiyya in Udaipur.

9. Khanaiyya is beheaded for standing in support of Nupur Sharma. The murderers record the killing on video and also threaten that the prime minister will meet the same fate

10. Many see this as a result of Zubair's call for action against Nupur and pull up old tweets of his with derogatory comments against Hindu practices demanding his arrest

11. Zubair is arrested and Altnews financials come under the scanner. Police use section 91 to obtain details of Altnews financing via Razorpay

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Post by web108 »

thealig wrote: post #268
airocker wrote: post #267

For those judging Indian government through these comments should understand that majority of Indians are happy with the government and elections in India are as fair as in the USA :) . The ones who are unhappy with the government and feel disempowered are more motivated to post in a forum where someone would read their grievances.

The "majority" of Indians watch and read from a small set of media outlets, most of them biased pro-government news media which feed only news showing the Indian government and authorities in a positive light while completely leaving out their problems. Basically, news confirming their biases. Critical journalism is pretty much marginal and niche - these outlets are fewer because there are very little incentives. The…

There is one thing common among Indian left-wingers and right-wingers. Both of them thinks the other wing is a frog-in-the-well.
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