Well I know this more related to MacBook Pro M2 but it's not necessarily as amazing compared to M1 as it appears https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZjELZBq7WU
It looks better.
The question is whether you'll want to pay 500€ just for better looks..
New MacBook Air with M2
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Re: New MacBook Air with M2
#552I spent an embarrassing amount on a lackluster early 2019 MBP. It's fine as a general purpose laptop but is just a little too slow for serious dev work, a little too heavy as the main travel laptop, battery life a little too short for my liking. I got an M1 for my work laptop maybe 4 months ago and it might honestly be the best laptop I've ever used.
2016 MBP gang rise up! I switched over to the Air M1 a year ago (I think?) and it's faster, lighter and smaller. Best laptop ever.
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#553Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just to put things into perspective, the 2019 MBP might be worse than M1 Macs, but it's still way better than anything I've seen in the PC world (which is why Macs have been able to coast through bad decisions regarding keyboard, ports, and touchbar for so many years). That said, I'm very excited for these new ARM devices.
I don’t believe it’s better than non-mac products.
Curious what you'd buy instead?
Re: New MacBook Air with M2
#554If you want one and if it's anything like the M1 devices right now, expect to wait till mid August or later if you want anything beyond the basic specs. Even now, M1 MBPs with 32 or 64GB RAM are a good 5-6 weeks out.
same for Apple Stores?
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#555Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's a good thing! The fact that the original version is still going strong is a (huge) selling point for Apple. I am glad to see a class of device meant to last upwards of 5 years.
I've been using my 2013 MBP for nearly a decade. Finally replaced it with a M1 MBP a few months ago. Honestly the 2013 still works great for what I do (web, videos, and dev work that doesn't involve spinning up multiple VMs ;) ), I figured it was time to upgrade and the supply chain issues don't seem to be letting up anytime soon. I might replace the battery in the old one. I'm hoping to get at least another decade o…
Are you sure that you can watch today's VP9/AV1 YouTube videos which would be software-decoded on a 2013 MBP without spinning fans incessantly?
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#556Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just to put things into perspective, the 2019 MBP might be worse than M1 Macs, but it's still way better than anything I've seen in the PC world (which is why Macs have been able to coast through bad decisions regarding keyboard, ports, and touchbar for so many years). That said, I'm very excited for these new ARM devices.
> it's still way better than anything I've seen in the PC world Man, if the 2019 16" Macbook is better than anything in the PC world, I feel like you don't try many laptops. That 16" laptop is one of the most comically terrible laptops I've ever seen. Nevermind the Touch Bar, the performance envelope on these devices is way off (and probably boils down to the terrible chassis design and logic board layout). I have a…
I have the 13” model at home and the 16” at work. My work computer runs hot and slow, but that seems to be attributable largely to (or at least confounded by) corporate malware (falcond in particular IIRC).
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#557For many in the HN audience, this may not be a good buy. You'd need to buy the 16GB + 512GB version since the bundled 256GB SSD is considerably slower than the previous gen as reported by many people. That bumps the price to $1599, which isn't significantly cheaper than the 14" MacBook Pro - which sells for $1799 on Best Buy.
I compared the 14" Pro to the M2 Air and here's how it looks to me:
MBP 14 base M1 Pro, 32G ram, 512hd = $2400.
MBA upgraded M2, 24G ram, 512hd = $1900.
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#558The pricing outside the US is outrageous though. Those are very expensive laptops. €1520 for the base version with only 8GB lol
Which typical Air buyer needs 16gb ram, the college student with 50 tabs open and Spotify in the background? People complaining about low ram sound like the bros asking how many cylinders a car has. Doesn't matter for most people. Just complain about price, yeah, it is expensive! --- This is coming from someone who does light gaming on an 8gb m1 MacBook Air and has plenty of tabs open. I don't see lag. Then again, I…
8GB results in lots of swapping with the SSD which greatly shortens SSD lifespan. That alone was reason enough to have 16GB.
I have an air for work with 16GB and frequently bump up against the amount of memory. I'm currently just waiting on reviews to decide between a 24GB Air and a 32GB Pro.
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#559Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because the $ is currently so strong against Euro, and others.
Is that going to change anytime soon? Genuinely interested because all currencies, other than USD are depreciating.
Currency depreciation forecast from oecd: https://data.oecd.org/price/inflation-forecast.htm#indicator...
Re: New MacBook Air with M2
#560MacBook Air M2 will most probably replace my current 2018 MacBook Pro. My only gripe with MacBook Air M1 was crappy RAM which they addressed (24GB). It's still less than what I have (32GB) I expect M2 will make up for that.
MY only gripe with the M1 and M2 Air the lack of support for more than a single external screen. I feel like it's just a pure marketing play to only support more than one external screen on the 14" pro. They have Magsafe and two thunderbolt 3 / USB 4 ports, they could totally support 2 Apple studio displays, at least on the 24GB model.
> I feel like it's just a pure marketing play to only support more than one external screen on the 14" pro.
I'm convinced it's exactly this. I gave them the benefit of the doubt with the M1 that it's just a first-gen quirk, something that they managed to address with the Pro and Max and would become a non-issue going forward.
But now that M2 has been introduced with the same limitation, it's become crystal clear that this is yet another classic Apple anti-consumer profit-seeking tactic.
Hoping the rest of the industry can eventually catch up to and hopefully overtake Apple silicon in performance/watt and discourage this kind of behavior, but given the sheer amount of resources they have available compared to every other player, I'm not holding my breath.