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Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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I spent an embarrassing amount on a lackluster early 2019 MBP. It's fine as a general purpose laptop but is just a little too slow for serious dev work, a little too heavy as the main travel laptop, battery life a little too short for my liking.

I got an M1 for my work laptop maybe 4 months ago and it might honestly be the best laptop I've ever used.

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The pricing outside the US is outrageous though. Those are very expensive laptops. €1520 for the base version with only 8GB lol

Because the $ is currently so strong against Euro, and others.

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I don't think you're downvoted because of fanboys. I think you're downvoted because: 1. Linux is coming to Apple Silicon sooner or later. You can buy now, enjoy macOS, and then install Linux later. 2. It's not reasonable to expect to use it for 10 years. Even if Apple stops supporting it, you can still use it. In addition, Macs have insane resale value. So you can sell it in 5 years, and then buy a new one. This is a…

>enjoy macOS If you're wanting to use your laptop for development work, you're going to pick the best job for the task. Moving to OSX would not only slow things down due to how slow non-native Docker is (no it is not negligible, yes I have an M1 Mac and I have tested it in a side-by-side comparison), but you have much less control over your environment compared to Linux. The vast majority of the people I've worked wi…

I don't enjoy macOS but I enjoy the hardware.

All of my work goes into (local/alpha/beta) production linux box that's why the mac is technically just a display.

And when I say local, I refer to a linux server, the mac connects to it. the macOS terminal does a nice work doing that, don't think there would be any difference in that regard if the laptop was running linux.

The new mac checks all of the hardware boxes that I wanted. Even occasional gaming if I felt like it.

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At the same time he did seem to suggest that it was a design that is aging quite well. Personally, when I look back at some of the original MacBook Pros with the milled chassis, I think they still look better than any recent Windows or Chromebook laptop. It really is quite a timeless design.

Timeless design and incredible engineering. I recently handled a ca. MacBook Pro from 2004, and it feels awful, like a collection of parts barely holding together. My 2008 unibody MacBook still feels nice to the touch and rock solid, even though it has been dead for many years now. Unibody was a huge investment for the company and my understanding is that this was in part one of Ive’s highest career points. If I reme…

I agree, I just gave away my wife's 2007 macbook from grad school and it was a great piece of engineering. I also really like my 2004 T41p until the magnesium hinges broke in half - otherwise another great laptop. For the people saying these new ones are expensive, both of those machines 15-20 years ago were much more expensive.

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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I'd be wary of this, until we get to the bottom of the reported thermal throttling issues with the Macbook Pro M2. That at least is actively cooled. This isn't.

Wasn't that about an extreme benchmarking test which is continuously fully utilising CPU and GPU for an extended period, like 30min? If I recall correctly, that would not influence my decision at all. I also do not select which car to get based on how far it gets with one charge if I load it with one ton of luggage, even if it were theoretically possible. I get the one which suits my needs best most of the time for a…

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I agree with this take. Tools should rarely require style updates. Sometimes you see style updates in hammers for example, but mostly they are gimmicks. A hammer from 89 years ago still hammers or pulls out nails. Some forms may be better for certain jobs (framing hammer, pein hammer, etc), but overall the design does not change very much. When you introduce things like “titanium” and nail holders, etc., it’s mostly…

A Macbook Air is also an accessory and a luxury item, though

I guess to some it is, to me its just a tool. I don't want ti to be a hideous monstrosity but its not a luxury, I have a largely pointless mechanical wrist watch for that purpose. I used a Macbook Air from 2012-2020 and never really cared that it was stylish, my previous computer was a big black brick (aka Thinkpad).

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MY only gripe with the M1 and M2 Air the lack of support for more than a single external screen. I feel like it's just a pure marketing play to only support more than one external screen on the 14" pro. They have Magsafe and two thunderbolt 3 / USB 4 ports, they could totally support 2 Apple studio displays, at least on the 24GB model.

I switched to a single ultra wide 38 from LG and it was a huge improvement over my dual monitor setup. I’m on M1 Air, and switched my work pc to the same.

I've been really considering an ultra-wide and have heard extremely polarized opinions on it. Is there anything specific that you prefer over two widescreen monitors?

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The SoC contains hardware decoders and external monitors don't require a lot of video memory per se.

> and external monitors don't require a lot of video memory per se. That depends. Your average 1080p display doesn't really use a ton of video memory, but a 5k display connected to an internal 1440p display? That's a pretty huge framebuffer. AFAIK, Quartz also has a separate video buffer for each individual window, ranging from 50-150mb for the average application. Add it all up, and I agree that 8gb is pretty low, e…

I agree you hit memory limits per application if you run a lot at once, but WindowServer roughly uses about 10-20% more memory on 4-5k vs. 2k, running the same applications. The 1080 plus the external, perhaps 15-25%. I'm not saying this means 8GB is the right amount of RAM for you.

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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This thing is going to sell like hotcakes. The combination of single core CPU and graphics performance, device thinness, battery life in this laptop is unmatched. It’s funny how Apple came back from the worst the Mac has ever been to the best in a span of few years. Johnny I’ve doesn’t dictate things around Apple anymore but the silicone chips team now does.

Long AAPL, you say? Or what else are you saying? I agree that Ive's influence will not be missed.

I would be long AAPL if they didn't have the majority of their production in China. That now poses a significant risk and Apple execs must be sweating bullets right now scrambling to onshore.

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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Would be the perfect laptop if it could hook up to 2 external monitors instead of just one. For that reason, I have to go for the M2 Pro.

If the M2 Air supported two displays, I’d have no reason whatsoever to buy the expensive MacBook Pro. The M1/M2 Air is already so ridiculously overpowered for my needs. Which is probably why the Air doesn’t support two displays. Sigh.

> Which is probably why the Air doesn’t support two displays

I recall reading at least with the M1 that it's actually a physical hardware limitation with the architecture inherited from the fact that the base M1 is pretty close to the A15 which never needed to pump out to more displays.

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