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Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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Post by highwaylights »

zuhsetaqi wrote: post #217
vishnugupta wrote: post #201

MacBook Air M2 will most probably replace my current 2018 MacBook Pro. My only gripe with MacBook Air M1 was crappy RAM which they addressed (24GB). It's still less than what I have (32GB) I expect M2 will make up for that.

My dealbreaker for the MBA is single external monitor support

This is the real problem right here and why I was ready to upgrade day one. Not interested in the M2 Air now. I'm sure it's all very nice but the only thing missing from my Air that I really wanted was multiple display output.

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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Post by dukeofdoom »

botdan wrote: post #196
dan1234 wrote: post #131

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The UK pricing is £1,249, up from £999, so 24% extra for the better CPU, webcam & display[0]. A bit disappointed to see them sticking with 256GB SSD as the base, feel like 512GB should really be the standard nowadays. [0] https://www.apple.com/uk/mac/compare/?modelList=MacBook-Air-...

Beyond just the storage constraints, there are performance concerns with the 256GB model [1]. At least with the 13" M2 MBP Apple has switched to using 256GB SSD NAND chips which means that anything less than 512GB has only a single channel of flash to read and write from. It's unclear if the new Air will have this same constraint but it's something to consider. [1] https://www.macrumors.com/2022/07/01/m2-macbook-pro-…

It's almost half the speed of the old base model. I think most consumers don't understand how much drive speed effects performance. The cpu is waiting around for the drive most of the time. So this feels like a major downgrade for the base model.

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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Post by diffeomorphism »

senttoschool wrote: post #94
thrwawy283 wrote: post #75

I want it, but I'm not getting it until all the hardware works under Linux. MacOS is great, but someday they will stop updating MacOS for this. I see it as a device with incredible longevity because of the fanless thermals and how it sips energy. I could see myself using it 10 years later. I want to run MacOS or Fedora Silverblue, with Silverblue being my true love. Immutable OS images HAH, downvoted in seconds. Woul…

I don't think you're downvoted because of fanboys. I think you're downvoted because: 1. Linux is coming to Apple Silicon sooner or later. You can buy now, enjoy macOS, and then install Linux later. 2. It's not reasonable to expect to use it for 10 years. Even if Apple stops supporting it, you can still use it. In addition, Macs have insane resale value. So you can sell it in 5 years, and then buy a new one. This is a…

Why are 10 years not reasonable? Like ebay is full of 2013 laptops and people buy these.

If it is not reasonable why can you resell it for a large amount after 5 years?

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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Post by eproxus »

Silica6149 wrote: post #50
timmattison wrote: post #33

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They’ve been doing this with a lot of products for a long time. “Today we announce iPhone … with iPhone you can do anything!” I think it is very strange.

It certainly sounds weird to english speakers. I imagine they shorten sentences to not lose people's attention.

Would it be equally weird or correct to write the macOS? After all, it’s short for “Mac Operating System”.

I’m not a native speaker so I’m genuinely curious.

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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Post by nico_h »

vishnugupta wrote: post #201

MacBook Air M2 will most probably replace my current 2018 MacBook Pro. My only gripe with MacBook Air M1 was crappy RAM which they addressed (24GB). It's still less than what I have (32GB) I expect M2 will make up for that.

MY only gripe with the M1 and M2 Air the lack of support for more than a single external screen. I feel like it's just a pure marketing play to only support more than one external screen on the 14" pro. They have Magsafe and two thunderbolt 3 / USB 4 ports, they could totally support 2 Apple studio displays, at least on the 24GB model.

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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Post by disgruntledphd2 »

dr_zoidberg wrote: post #203
DoughnutHole wrote: post #189

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I find it very hard to believe that Apple deliberately sabotaged a multi-billion dollar product line for ~5 years in order to (possibly?) boost sales when their incredibly risky and expensive investment into their own silicon came to market. People have been shitting on MacBooks since they removed MagSafe and brought in the butterfly keyboard in 2016. The i9 Pros with massive thermal issues came out in 2018. That's a…

> I wouldn't ascribe to malice what can be more easily be ascribed to incompetence While I usually agree with the sentiment, it's hard to believe that one of the most successful companies in the world can be subject to such levels of incompetence on one of their flagship products.

Incompetence is the general state of affairs in the life of us all, unfortunately.

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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Post by thunfischbrot »

InTheArena wrote: post #210

I'd be wary of this, until we get to the bottom of the reported thermal throttling issues with the Macbook Pro M2. That at least is actively cooled. This isn't.

Wasn't that about an extreme benchmarking test which is continuously fully utilising CPU and GPU for an extended period, like 30min?

If I recall correctly, that would not influence my decision at all. I also do not select which car to get based on how far it gets with one charge if I load it with one ton of luggage, even if it were theoretically possible. I get the one which suits my needs best most of the time for a good price.

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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Post by mproud »

dcolkitt wrote: post #220
simonebrunozzi wrote: post #177

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Long AAPL, you say? Or what else are you saying? I agree that Ive's influence will not be missed.

Aren't Macs basically a rounding error for the overall company?

Apple is virtually the only consumer computer company that has had positive YoY computer growth every year in the past 20 years. Apple is selling way more iPhones, but the Mac has been gradually and steadily gaining growth.

Re: New MacBook Air with M2

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Post by buzzy_hacker »

mwint wrote: post #216
johnfernow wrote: post #199

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> 2. It's not reasonable to expect to use it for 10 years. Even if Apple stops supporting it, you can still use it. In addition, Macs have insane resale value. So you can sell it in 5 years, and then buy a new one. This is a more reasonable approach than yours. Why is that? I still use my 2015 15" MacBook Pro which released 7 years ago, and I have no intention of replacing it anytime soon. This isn't the 70s, 80s, 90…

> Why should someone emit more than half a ton of CO2e for a new laptop unless they really need it? If this is a serious concern for anyone, it looks like carbon capture runs around $22/ton. So this is an $11 problem.

Do you mean offsets (which don’t really do anything)? Because carbon capture is more expensive than that.
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