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Re: FBI Child ID App

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Post by tyleo »

howmayiannoyyou wrote: post #67

Low grade corruption ...and here's why: The FBI is understaffed, misdirected & underfunded for its real mission, which I would argue must be fighting public corruption, organized crime and counter-espionage. Any objective analysis would conclude the Bureau has been politicized and its resources have been directed at operations, investigations and training that does not fulfill its core mission. The bad PR and mistrus…

I think you are reading a lot into the development of an app. For anything the government does it seems like folks are ready to pop out and say, “the resources would be better spent on X.” Maybe true but I’d argue doing slightly wrong things is better than listening to the orchestra of naysayers and doing nothing.

Re: FBI Child ID App

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Post by GavinMcG »

rbanffy wrote: post #72
alsetmusic wrote: post #62

There's a television ad that stands out in my memory from when I was a kid (80s). The camera pans across patrons at a diner and the voiceover is about how a kidnapped child was recovered as the camera stops on a young girl (~8yo). The child is described, but the child the camera landed on has different features (hair dyed, cut, whatever). The explanation for how she was identified is that her fingerprints were on fil…

> No child's fingerprints are getting checked unless some foul play is already suspected. A simple way around it is to have the kid fingerprinted and only release the information if the kid needs to be tracked/located.

I think the comment is pointing out that if your child is kidnapped and raised elsewhere, there will not be a reason to fingerprint them then for comparison unless there's already a reason to think they may have been kidnapped.

That is, it might help on the back end, but the comment is suggesting that mass fingerprinting is not likely to move the needle much.

Re: FBI Child ID App

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Post by Silica6149 »

namelessoracle wrote: post #82

It says a lot about the FBI that most people's initial reaction is "whats the trick here?". BOTH sides of the political aisle too.

I think a lot of people are put off by the fact that the FBI took the time to make this instead of doing more important duties. The app seems to have good intentions, but its execution needs work, so there's not much benefit.

Re: FBI Child ID App

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Post by vanattab »

rbanffy wrote: post #72
alsetmusic wrote: post #62

There's a television ad that stands out in my memory from when I was a kid (80s). The camera pans across patrons at a diner and the voiceover is about how a kidnapped child was recovered as the camera stops on a young girl (~8yo). The child is described, but the child the camera landed on has different features (hair dyed, cut, whatever). The explanation for how she was identified is that her fingerprints were on fil…

> No child's fingerprints are getting checked unless some foul play is already suspected. A simple way around it is to have the kid fingerprinted and only release the information if the kid needs to be tracked/located.

I think thier point was even if you registered your kids fingerprints with the police they are not going to go around to every kid in all the dinners checking fingerprints to compare to.

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Post by Akronymus »

ceejayoz wrote: post #56
usrn wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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I don't think "prevent divorced couples from hating each other afterwards" is all that high on the QAnon priority list.

I find it sad that nowadays it seems that divorce is pushed for, rather than trying to reconcile/rebuild a healthy relationship.

A LOT of problems are caused by a lack of at least one parent/parental role.

Re: FBI Child ID App

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Post by ejb999 »

howmayiannoyyou wrote: post #67

Low grade corruption ...and here's why: The FBI is understaffed, misdirected & underfunded for its real mission, which I would argue must be fighting public corruption, organized crime and counter-espionage. Any objective analysis would conclude the Bureau has been politicized and its resources have been directed at operations, investigations and training that does not fulfill its core mission. The bad PR and mistrus…

couldn't agree more - the things the FBI choses to spend time and money on are mind boggling; most egregious that comes to mind was all the wasted time and resources tracking down and recovering Tom Brady's jersey in Mexico - I don't care how much it was worth, Tom Brady or the Patriots each have hundreds of millions of dollars available to them if they wanted to track it down with their own money.

Re: FBI Child ID App

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Post by trey-jones »

alsetmusic wrote: post #62

There's a television ad that stands out in my memory from when I was a kid (80s). The camera pans across patrons at a diner and the voiceover is about how a kidnapped child was recovered as the camera stops on a young girl (~8yo). The child is described, but the child the camera landed on has different features (hair dyed, cut, whatever). The explanation for how she was identified is that her fingerprints were on fil…

This was a very big thing in the late 80s apparently. Our local Kiwanis Club had provided IDs for parents in the community who wanted them. They just had a photo of the child with some other physical descriptions like eye color and birthmarks. Still, kind of a local, analog version of this, but without the dystopian bent.

I agree, this feels more creepy than useful/helpful service.

Re: FBI Child ID App

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Post by A4ET8a8uTh0 »

tyleo wrote: post #81
howmayiannoyyou wrote: post #67

Low grade corruption ...and here's why: The FBI is understaffed, misdirected & underfunded for its real mission, which I would argue must be fighting public corruption, organized crime and counter-espionage. Any objective analysis would conclude the Bureau has been politicized and its resources have been directed at operations, investigations and training that does not fulfill its core mission. The bad PR and mistrus…

I think you are reading a lot into the development of an app. For anything the government does it seems like folks are ready to pop out and say, “the resources would be better spent on X.” Maybe true but I’d argue doing slightly wrong things is better than listening to the orchestra of naysayers and doing nothing.

I know it goes against majority of what people think on the subject, but sometimes doing nothing is the absolute best thing to do. Doing something badly at best can keep things as is; not to mention the worst case scenarios.
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