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Re: Quebec Sovereignty Movement

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Post by rayiner »

qwedf wrote: post #15

The only reason I see this relevant to HN is because lots of tech companies have been opening Montreal offices over the past 20 years. We have 4 universities and most educated people are bilingual in spite of the officialdom. However the drumbeats of separatism are banging again [1], so might be relevant considering what happened to the Montreal economy the last times these idiots were allowed to lead by their inferi…

I don’t see anything about “racism” in 3 and 4. The first is about excluding religious symbols from public, which is what France does, and is an extremely left-wing notion. Certainly not what folks in “Georgia” would do. And the second is about mandatory French education. Explain to me where the “racism” is.

Re: Quebec Sovereignty Movement

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Post by raverbashing »

qwedf wrote: post #15

The only reason I see this relevant to HN is because lots of tech companies have been opening Montreal offices over the past 20 years. We have 4 universities and most educated people are bilingual in spite of the officialdom. However the drumbeats of separatism are banging again [1], so might be relevant considering what happened to the Montreal economy the last times these idiots were allowed to lead by their inferi…

Or, summing up the financial impacts: the HQ of the "Bank of Montreal" have moved to Toronto

Re: Quebec Sovereignty Movement

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Post by thematrixturtle »

raverbashing wrote: post #22
qwedf wrote: post #15

The only reason I see this relevant to HN is because lots of tech companies have been opening Montreal offices over the past 20 years. We have 4 universities and most educated people are bilingual in spite of the officialdom. However the drumbeats of separatism are banging again [1], so might be relevant considering what happened to the Montreal economy the last times these idiots were allowed to lead by their inferi…

Or, summing up the financial impacts: the HQ of the "Bank of Montreal" have moved to Toronto

It's not just the banks, basically all major companies moved their HQs to Toronto.

Re: Quebec Sovereignty Movement

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Post by elevaet »

IIAOPSW wrote: post #4

Even more interesting, if it went through the Western half of Canada would effectively be cut off from the bulk of the countries population and economic centers. For this reason, the Governor of Alberta at the time had planned to cede to the US had the referendum been a success. At that point there probably would have been something of a domino effect, with the other Western provinces doing the same.

> Governor of Alberta at the time had planned to cede to the US

Ex-Albertan here: this is false, there has never been a plan to "cede to the US". It would be extremely politically distasteful in Alberta to cede to the USA, such a plan would be political suicide.

There have definitely been fringe movements for Albertan Separatism though. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alberta_separatism

> Governor

Premier. Premier leads the party that is elected to govern the Province.

Re: Quebec Sovereignty Movement

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Post by hinoki »

ncphillips wrote: post #16
swottler wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could you clarify? Wouldn't this only cut Newfoundland and Labrador off from the rest of Canada? Can't see how this would affect Western Canada's access to the population/economic centre which is basically just Ontario, and to a lesser degree BC and Alberta itself. (Excepting Quebec, which I guess all of Canada would be cut off from to the same degree in this scenario).

There’s 3 other provinces east of Quebec

Newfoundland and Labrador

Nova Scotia

New Brunswick

Prince Edward Island

Re: Quebec Sovereignty Movement

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Post by thematrixturtle »

qwedf wrote: post #15

The only reason I see this relevant to HN is because lots of tech companies have been opening Montreal offices over the past 20 years. We have 4 universities and most educated people are bilingual in spite of the officialdom. However the drumbeats of separatism are banging again [1], so might be relevant considering what happened to the Montreal economy the last times these idiots were allowed to lead by their inferi…

Illustrative fact: Quebec is the only place in the world where KFC is not KFC, but PFK (Poulet Frit Kentucky).

Re: Quebec Sovereignty Movement

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Post by ipaddr »

the_biot wrote: post #19
peppermint_tea wrote: post #2

Being a Québecois, I am divided on this issue. To heavily summarize : Pro : - Only one level of corruption instead of two to keep in check. - A (sometime too zealous) protection of the language. Against : - Less international political weight - Companies forced to to business in french by law might gtfo since it incur costs - Weak military power (would we stay in NATO?) Globally : Our roads are already crap. Healthca…

At the time of the referendum, at least, I recall that Quebec was a net recipient of federal funds, i.e. was not economically self-sufficient. I always assumed that played a role in the way the vote went: people expecting the Quebec economy to nosedive on independence. What's the situation now?

If they ever are not net recipients the formula gets changed so they are.

Re: Quebec Sovereignty Movement

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Post by qwedf »

raverbashing wrote: post #22
qwedf wrote: post #15

The only reason I see this relevant to HN is because lots of tech companies have been opening Montreal offices over the past 20 years. We have 4 universities and most educated people are bilingual in spite of the officialdom. However the drumbeats of separatism are banging again [1], so might be relevant considering what happened to the Montreal economy the last times these idiots were allowed to lead by their inferi…

Or, summing up the financial impacts: the HQ of the "Bank of Montreal" have moved to Toronto

Everything but the former Crown corporations like Air Canada and Bell moved their HQs. And the ones that stayed only did so because the federal government made sure they stayed

Re: Quebec Sovereignty Movement

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Post by jamincan »

enriquto wrote: post #18
jhbadger wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly. Quebec gets what it wants from Ottawa by having separatism as a threat.

Sounds like Canada proper would benefit greatly by letting Quebec go, then? Thus they would't bear the heavy burden of these concessions that they are continuously forced to do.

It would be interesting to see polling about how the rest of Canada feels about Quebec separating now compared to 1995. I was just a child at the time and didn't want Quebec to separate, but now as an adult, I feel much more ambivalent.

Re: Quebec Sovereignty Movement

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Post by realusername »

rayiner wrote: post #21
qwedf wrote: post #15

The only reason I see this relevant to HN is because lots of tech companies have been opening Montreal offices over the past 20 years. We have 4 universities and most educated people are bilingual in spite of the officialdom. However the drumbeats of separatism are banging again [1], so might be relevant considering what happened to the Montreal economy the last times these idiots were allowed to lead by their inferi…

I don’t see anything about “racism” in 3 and 4. The first is about excluding religious symbols from public, which is what France does, and is an extremely left-wing notion. Certainly not what folks in “Georgia” would do. And the second is about mandatory French education. Explain to me where the “racism” is.

I'd argue that it's the opposite, there's are a lot of discriminations against Québec from the english side, it's very apparent online and it's a bit shocking to watch to be honest.

Those discriminations for sure helping the independence movement.

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