33% of people will kill themselves over another individual (sure...)
17% of people will kill themselves over killing 5 clones
Come on guys, consistency, please!
Absurd Trolley Problems
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#332Earlier quoted context omitted.
Remember that around 12% preferred that someone die, rather than their Amazon package being late.
I suspect around 12% preferred to read the problems but always click the same choice to avoid giving away PII. A quarter probably did that, considering both options.
What PII
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#333it's all so theoretical, I think we need to do a more concrete simulation to see how it all plays out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtRhrfhP5b4
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#334Surprised on the answer to the “worst enemy” one. I wouldn’t really call anyone I know personally my worst enemy, so I figured it’d be someone like Mao or Hitler, and of course I’d just have it run them over.
Do other people have a worst enemy in their life?
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#335If you factor in the legal implications, the trolley problem becomes trivial. Do nothing. I'm not qualified nor allowed to operate train infrastructure and the legal consequences will become worse if someone dies because of something I did.
It's not trivial, dunno about US, but in many (developed) countries around world not providing help to someone (passing around car crash without stopping, if you don't see anyone providing help) has legal implications.
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#336If pulling the lever is going to kill someone, I never pull it. The only hard one is if pulling it will save my own life, I probably would in that case but it would be wrong. Pulling the lever makes you a murderer instead of a bystander.
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#337did anyone else wear their unphilosophical sadistic karma-denying internet-can't-hurt-me hat to intentionally skew phony statistics because they thought everyone else would do the same?
No :-) Come on now, there's no good reason to answer random/opposite from what you would normally do, just to skew statistics. Obviously this is the internet we're talking about, so there are bound to be "silly" answers and these count as well. We can't all think the same and answer the same ;-)
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#338Re: Absurd Trolley Problems
#339If you factor in the legal implications, the trolley problem becomes trivial. Do nothing. I'm not qualified nor allowed to operate train infrastructure and the legal consequences will become worse if someone dies because of something I did.
The point of the hypothetical situation is to look at a 'pure' case without external consideration in order to get to the crux of the problem.
Consideration of legal implications is missing the point of the exercise.
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#340Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't see how that trivializes the problem. With that additional consideration, the options are: 1. Let 5 people die and 1 live, and you probably don't have any legal consequences. 2. Save 5 people, cause the death of 1, and you probably go to jail. So the thing that made the answer trivial was the introduction of legal consequences that affect you personally? Doesn't the difference of 4 deaths dwarf that?
You're implying that you'd go to jail for the lives of 4 people (or that people should), but recent experience has shown people won't even wear a mask to save other people's lives.
Is there any proof wearing a mask save ANY lives? People talk about this as if it were some fact, it's usually same people believing safe and effective vaccines, who quickly forgot vaccines were supposed to stop transmission, stop symptoms, they just keep pushing goal posts, while reality if you look at stats in highly vaxxed countries is that vaccines do really nothing anymore.