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Absurd Trolley Problems

neal.fun

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Re: Absurd Trolley Problems

#82
I feel like this is easier if you’re a non-lever-puller. If you think it’s wrong to pull the lever if it causes anyone’s death who wasn’t dying anyway, then most of these are easy.

Except the “you can’t see the track” one I suppose :P

Re: Absurd Trolley Problems

#83
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I selected that one. Not because I'm particularly selfless, but because I think it's morally wrong to throw the switch whenever doing so amounts to killing someone, even when inaction results in more death.

What if the switch is a hair-trigger movement sensor, so you must stand very still not to trigger it? Which one is "inaction" now, purposefully standing very still, or acting as you would have otherwise?

I think inaction refers to intent, not the way the wind blows. In the case of the hair trigger, I’d be morally obligated to stand very still, but it wouldn’t be particularly blameworthy if I happened to falter. This is in contrast to the normal switch, where I’d be to blame if I pulled it.

Re: Absurd Trolley Problems

#84

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Why is that so hard to believe? There are innumerable stories of people sacrificing themselves for other people. Everything from throwing oneself onto a grenade to having kids.

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I too am a little confused. Might be helpful to remember that we will all soon be forgotten whether we reproduce or not.

Re: Absurd Trolley Problems

#85

>Oh no! Due to a construction error, a trolley is stuck in an eternal loop. If you pull the lever the trolley will explode, and if you don't the trolley and it's passengers will go in circles for eternity. What do you do? 50% of people pull the lever?!? I hereby declare that if I'm ever going to be stuck in a trolley for my entire life, I do NOT want the lever pulled. Toss me a smartphone charger and my life wouldn't…

If it's stuck for eternity, I think there is enough time to ask the stuck person what they want.

If you can communicate with the outside. Or maybe humanity exterminated itself besides the people in the magic trolley before you decided to get blown up.

Re: Absurd Trolley Problems

#86
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Level 20 was weird. It was a choice between letting a trolley run as normal ("emits CO2, kills 3 people in accidents over 30 years") or running it into a brick wall and decommissioning it. For some reason more people picked the latter. So, they just dislike public transit? What about the emissions and death rate when everyone switches to cars instead? Goes to show how easily the context and exact wording of a questio…

To me it seemed that people would bike/walk instead. I still let the trolley continue though.

Re: Absurd Trolley Problems

#87

I wonder what the explanations are for 18, most people killed the robots. Assumption of backups? Or caring about your own species more?

Chickens are sentient. Would you have changed your answer if it were chickens? I chose to save the human as the prompt didn't set a bar for the level of sentience. Also partly because of shameless speciesism. I love animals, have gone mostly vegetarian, but I would still save a human over any other animal.

> I chose to save the human as the prompt didn't set a bar for the level of sentience.

That’s actually a very good point, I made more assumptions than the text gave cause for.

Re: Absurd Trolley Problems

#88
post #12

Level 20 was weird. It was a choice between letting a trolley run as normal ("emits CO2, kills 3 people in accidents over 30 years") or running it into a brick wall and decommissioning it. For some reason more people picked the latter. So, they just dislike public transit? What about the emissions and death rate when everyone switches to cars instead? Goes to show how easily the context and exact wording of a questio…

This seems to take place in a hypothetical universe with an overabundance of trolleys.

And they cost $300k apiece, which seems like a bargain in the context of the average public works project.

Re: Absurd Trolley Problems

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How you going to eat buddy? You want the explosion option, or the starve to death option?

I didn't see anything in that prompt that said someone couldn't toss me my lunch while I pass by.

Or that you need food at all. It says 'eternity' including the trolley + passengers.
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