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The ‘E-Pimps’ of OnlyFans

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These “pimps” serve as surrogates for the cammer, (consensually) impersonating them so that the cammer’s account can engage with more subscribers. I wonder how convincing something like GPT-3 would be at this. I give it 5 years tops for 100% AI OnlyFans accounts to be commonplace, complete with artificial personalized livestreams.

When we get to that point, people will form pair bonds with holograms that text and video chat them on the go.

That's already happening: https://www.reddit.com/r/replika/

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

edit: comment below me has the youtube link, "nudes4sale" by the bbc

What vpn works with this? Neither Mozilla nor mullvad could trick the bbc iplayer

Might need a dedicated IP for that. I had some success in the past with the Proton VPN premium/streaming option, not sure what the exact name is

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I have a lot of trouble begrudging anybody anything in this, even though I don't like it. The models who own the pages can't possibly give everyone in their subscriber base what they want. The subscribers are looking for a product, and they're getting it. The comparisons some have made to infidelity or cheating seem misplaced: There's no real relationship here, except a business relationship, and expecting a random woman to shower you with attention for $50 a pop videos seems unrealistic.

The personalities described here - like Jason Rosario - don't seem like particularly pleasant people to spend a lot of time with. Their life goals and priorities are not mine. But like most porn, while it might be kinda gross, but it shouldn't be illegal or inherently subject to societal shaming (if Rosario was selling energy drinks, who would judge him the same way?).

The place for real unethical behavior, therefore, is on the margins: Taking unreasonable cuts of models' income (70%!). Negotiating different rates with different subscribers for the same video. What if a subscriber is having a genuine mental health crisis? What if they threaten to kill one of the models? Or themselves? Is Jason Rosario prepared to handle that?

None of those possibilities seem like reasons to just shut all of this down or do anything - not that I'm sure the article is advocating for that. I'm just not sure what else to do or consider in response to this phenomenon. I guess I just acknowledge it exists? I doubt the people in this story could be counted on to behave responsibly, but until they don't, I'm not sure what it matters.

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I wonder if people realize that they are communicating with the new version of a phone sex line. It seems a little dishonest. Before the Internet, people could call the sex lines and talk to people, and it was your imagination. With the Internet, and only fans, all of the media, it seems disingenuous and a little bit like a scam.

Is it really all that different than the old phone sex lines? I’m not old enough to know, but I’d presume there’d be some visual accompanying said ads — perhaps a woman more attractive than the real one on the other end of the phone?

These ads were all over the backs of local media rags (Guardian, Stranger, Phoenix). Always had a sexy babe with barely any clothes on. Call me babe, only $4.99/min (in 1999 money!)

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These “pimps” serve as surrogates for the cammer, (consensually) impersonating them so that the cammer’s account can engage with more subscribers. I wonder how convincing something like GPT-3 would be at this. I give it 5 years tops for 100% AI OnlyFans accounts to be commonplace, complete with artificial personalized livestreams.

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I have a lot of trouble begrudging anybody anything in this, even though I don't like it. The models who own the pages can't possibly give everyone in their subscriber base what they want. The subscribers are looking for a product, and they're getting it. The comparisons some have made to infidelity or cheating seem misplaced: There's no real relationship here, except a business relationship, and expecting a random w…

> The comparisons some have made to infidelity or cheating seem misplaced: There's no real relationship here, except a business relationship.

This seems no less real than a medieval nobleman's arranged marriage; infidelity or cheating was a big deal then.

> and expecting a random woman to shower you with attention for $50 a pop videos seems unrealistic.

Given global wage inequality, is it really? I'd expect many of them to be the equivalent of the famed "chinese gold farmers".

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> Many are based in Miami. It’s a place where young marketing types have embraced a vision of what the internet is actually for that is at odds with Silicon Valley’s: less a utopian escape from reality than an infinite expansion of its strip malls.

I am glad there is a honeypot for people like this so they won't move here (SV or even SF)

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OnlyFans in Ancient Rome: The Colosseum Arena is packed with people, everyone is watching the orgy in the center and throwing a a few coins from time to time, the High Priests of this Temple of Lust burn a special scent that drives the crowd crazy.
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