Well what is truly Musk’s attitude towards racial equality? Unfortunately his behavior or silence is only feeding rumors around that.
Lawsuit: At Tesla, racial discrimination is “standard operating procedure”
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#12Well what is truly Musk’s attitude towards racial equality? Unfortunately his behavior or silence is only feeding rumors around that.
You can tell a lot about a person based on the company they keep.
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#13There are multiple lawsuits where Tesla has had similar accusations and the judgement trend has been consistently against their favor.
I see a similar trend with Facebook and the like but for different accusations in the EU and elsewhere. These fines are not enough. When awarding them, the company's stock value and net profits should be taken into consideration and inaction or lack of change after the lawsuit should be considered contempt of the court where the CEO is held criminally liable.
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#14Well what is truly Musk’s attitude towards racial equality? Unfortunately his behavior or silence is only feeding rumors around that.
His family became wealthy during apartheid, they were beneficiaries of state sponsored racism, I'd say he is at least indifferent to it as long as he is not suffering any consequences.
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#15There are multiple lawsuits where Tesla has had similar accusations and the judgement trend has been consistently against their favor. I see a similar trend with Facebook and the like but for different accusations in the EU and elsewhere. These fines are not enough. When awarding them, the company's stock value and net profits should be taken into consideration and inaction or lack of change after the lawsuit should…
We should at least consider the possibility this is just a bunch of lowlifes trying to cash in with lawsuits on stuff that is sadly routine in many blue collar work settings.
Since it's Tesla, it garners headlines, and that helps with the lawsuits.
Lawsuits at other blue collar workplaces are boring, so they don't make headlines, don't threaten the companies involved, and go nowhere.
It seems Tesla is being targeted for monetary reasons here. Yes the underlying (if true) behavior is bad too. But the number of lawsuits should not be taken to conclude that Tesla has an especially outsized internal problem. Rather, it has an outsized spotlight.
None of this is to defend rude behavior in any workplace. But I doubt Tesla is particularly special except for the headlines aspect, which increases the potential viability and thus the number of lawsuits.
Of course that means it would behoove them to do more to address any behavior issues. I have no reason to think they are interested in perpetuating such behavior.
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#16Re: Lawsuit: At Tesla, racial discrimination is “standard operating procedure”
#17There are multiple lawsuits where Tesla has had similar accusations and the judgement trend has been consistently against their favor. I see a similar trend with Facebook and the like but for different accusations in the EU and elsewhere. These fines are not enough. When awarding them, the company's stock value and net profits should be taken into consideration and inaction or lack of change after the lawsuit should…
We should at least consider the possibility this is just a bunch of lowlifes trying to cash in with lawsuits on stuff that is sadly routine in many blue collar work settings. Since it's Tesla, it garners headlines, and that helps with the lawsuits. Lawsuits at other blue collar workplaces are boring, so they don't make headlines, don't threaten the companies involved, and go nowhere. It seems Tesla is being targeted…
> We should at least consider the possibility this is just a bunch of lowlifes trying to cash in with lawsuits on stuff that is sadly routine in many blue collar work settings.
From the article:
"Tesla's treatment of Black employees was previously highlighted in a federal lawsuit filed by former employee Owen Diaz, who was awarded $137 million by a jury. After the jury trial, a federal judge rejected Tesla's claim that it is not liable for the "disturbing" racist abuse Diaz suffered but reduced the award to $15 million."
Re: Lawsuit: At Tesla, racial discrimination is “standard operating procedure”
#18There are multiple lawsuits where Tesla has had similar accusations and the judgement trend has been consistently against their favor. I see a similar trend with Facebook and the like but for different accusations in the EU and elsewhere. These fines are not enough. When awarding them, the company's stock value and net profits should be taken into consideration and inaction or lack of change after the lawsuit should…
We should at least consider the possibility this is just a bunch of lowlifes trying to cash in with lawsuits on stuff that is sadly routine in many blue collar work settings. Since it's Tesla, it garners headlines, and that helps with the lawsuits. Lawsuits at other blue collar workplaces are boring, so they don't make headlines, don't threaten the companies involved, and go nowhere. It seems Tesla is being targeted…
Racism isn't just "rude". It's morally reprehensible and damaging across many dimensions for individuals and society at large. Even moreso at work, where such attitudes are irrelevant and have no place in furthering the business objectives.
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#19Well what is truly Musk’s attitude towards racial equality? Unfortunately his behavior or silence is only feeding rumors around that.
His family became wealthy during apartheid, they were beneficiaries of state sponsored racism, I'd say he is at least indifferent to it as long as he is not suffering any consequences.
It's a logical leap to suggest that indirectly benefitting from something means one is indifferent to that thing. We're all beneficiaries of child labour in the third world; it doesn't mean we're all indifferent to it. Most of us at least disapprove.
Errol Musk claimed to the New York Times that he belonged to the anti-apartheid Progressive Party at the time. Elon Musk said in his biography that he did not want to partake in South Africa's mandatory military service because it would have forced him to participate in the apartheid regime.[1]
I understand that this an emotionally charged issue, and I would never expect the wider public to behave differently, but I'd at least expect this community to engage in more critical thinking -- to not make logical leaps, and to be honest about the facts at hand. We're not going to reverse the world's social progress because the nerds on Hacker News decided to pause for thought.
[1]: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/05/world/africa/elon-musk-so...
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