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Re: Happy 4th of July

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And what if they are? What difference would that make?

The gangsters aren’t affected by gun control laws.

Is this true? I imagine that if there is easier access to guns in general then there are more sources for criminals as well. Gangs usually do not us guns were I am from.

Re: Happy 4th of July

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> We get to pick 2 people to represent ~40M people in the Senate, whereas the ~500k people of Wyoming get to pick 2 representative as well. That sounds like it is working as the founding fathers intended. As that gives rural states a voice as well. If that is a good or bad thing is debatable. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyranny_of_the_majority

> That sounds like it is working as the founding fathers intended. As that gives rural states a voice as well. This is why residents of DC and Puerto Rico should be allowed to choose representation in Congress, because as it is, about 4M US citizens are paying taxes without any voting influence in Congress.

> This is why residents of DC ... should be allowed to choose representation in Congress

I agree, but noticed that when suggestions of combining DC with surrounding Maryland come up, many folks go silent. This gives the appearance of just using DC to get extra Democrat votes.

Re: Happy 4th of July

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Given a disproportionate number of HN users are in California, no we don't actually "choose" congress in any reasonable sense. We get to pick 2 people to represent ~40M people in the Senate, whereas the ~500k people of Wyoming get to pick 2 representative as well. Given how our institutions work, the people of Wyoming have vastly more influence on a per capita basis than those in California, which is evidenced in our…

> We get to pick 2 people to represent ~40M people in the Senate, whereas the ~500k people of Wyoming get to pick 2 representative as well. That sounds like it is working as the founding fathers intended. As that gives rural states a voice as well. If that is a good or bad thing is debatable. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyranny_of_the_majority

People speak, land doesn't - there is no such thing as a "rural voice".

Re: Happy 4th of July

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post #8

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Given a disproportionate number of HN users are in California, no we don't actually "choose" congress in any reasonable sense. We get to pick 2 people to represent ~40M people in the Senate, whereas the ~500k people of Wyoming get to pick 2 representative as well. Given how our institutions work, the people of Wyoming have vastly more influence on a per capita basis than those in California, which is evidenced in our…

> Supreme Court turn to the batshit insane side of reality. Following the Constitution as written instead of legislating from the bench is batshit insane? Federal protection of abortion rights should come from Congress, not an overreaching activist Judiciary. Also, if you’re in California nothing has changed about access to abortion and nothing will change for the foreseeable future.

For logical consistency either states have control over both guns and abortion, or neither. The picking and choosing exposes this as a religious crusade.

Re: Happy 4th of July

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post #8

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Given a disproportionate number of HN users are in California, no we don't actually "choose" congress in any reasonable sense. We get to pick 2 people to represent ~40M people in the Senate, whereas the ~500k people of Wyoming get to pick 2 representative as well. Given how our institutions work, the people of Wyoming have vastly more influence on a per capita basis than those in California, which is evidenced in our…

Doesn’t Belgium also have the the same number of UN representatives as India?

Yes, and I can't believe the supreme world court of the UN just removed all countries ability to set gun laws and the world has gone full Alabama overnight. rad.

Re: Happy 4th of July

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> We get to pick 2 people to represent ~40M people in the Senate, whereas the ~500k people of Wyoming get to pick 2 representative as well. That sounds like it is working as the founding fathers intended. As that gives rural states a voice as well. If that is a good or bad thing is debatable. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyranny_of_the_majority

> That sounds like it is working as the founding fathers intended. As that gives rural states a voice as well. This is why residents of DC and Puerto Rico should be allowed to choose representation in Congress, because as it is, about 4M US citizens are paying taxes without any voting influence in Congress.

Lots of "territories" that are just colonial afterthoughts from after we "conquered" the CONUS but before we figured out economic imperialism is more efficient that waving a flag.

Re: Happy 4th of July

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post #8

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Given a disproportionate number of HN users are in California, no we don't actually "choose" congress in any reasonable sense. We get to pick 2 people to represent ~40M people in the Senate, whereas the ~500k people of Wyoming get to pick 2 representative as well. Given how our institutions work, the people of Wyoming have vastly more influence on a per capita basis than those in California, which is evidenced in our…

Did anyone promise the equality of influence of people in different states on the Senate? The country is called United States, not a Union of California and the Northeast. (I'm not American.)

That's my point, a system designed hundreds of years ago by slave owners - which is an outlier in global governance - needs an overhaul. It's not fit for purpose, and even when the US help countries "build" democracy we set up parliamentary systems (eg Japan).

Re: Happy 4th of July

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post #45

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> Supreme Court turn to the batshit insane side of reality. Following the Constitution as written instead of legislating from the bench is batshit insane? Federal protection of abortion rights should come from Congress, not an overreaching activist Judiciary. Also, if you’re in California nothing has changed about access to abortion and nothing will change for the foreseeable future.

For logical consistency either states have control over both guns and abortion, or neither. The picking and choosing exposes this as a religious crusade.

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Re: Happy 4th of July

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post #42

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The gangsters aren’t affected by gun control laws.

Is this true? I imagine that if there is easier access to guns in general then there are more sources for criminals as well. Gangs usually do not us guns were I am from.

It’s pretty easy for gangs to acquire cocaine and that’s illegal pretty much everywhere.

Even if you could wave a magic wand and disarm the American populace gangs would still be able to get guns from dirty cops, military arms dealers, or just get them from war zones. There’s virtually no accountability of the military aid that we send overseas to support our side in proxy wars.

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