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Which law in this case? Be specific, what law requires them to not treat particular healthcare facilities differently with regards to data collection?
And if abortion is going to be decided by the states, what state law is Google violating? CA isn't going to make not sharing this data illegal.
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#102Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'd go a little further and say that tech has exacerbated the failings of the USA.
I'd go even further and say that tech is fundamental in the destruction of the fabric of American society.
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#103Plenty of uproar after Roe v Wade overturning, even here in the EU but.. The real shame is leaving lawmaking to the courts due to political opportunism. I am fully in favor of legalized abortion, but why was it never codified in law? Not a priority according to democratic politicians. Not a priority. So, you reap what you sow if you ask me. I learned that many countries, including my own, made, and make that mistake…
American here. I think it's important to not characterize judicial review in the Row case as lawmaking. Although lots of anti-abortion advocates criticized Roe as legislating from the bench, the court was actually doing was checking the power of various state governments to take away individual rights. Judicial review has certainly been misused by the court in other cases to legislate, and the concept is anti-democra…
Correct, it did not pass a law, it made a ruling that read like legislation that struck down the laws of States passed by people’s elected representatives, i.e. the people selected to pass laws.
The Court does not exist to “check” the States except where the laws of States conflict with the laws of the United States, in which case either party may be “checked”.
Re: Roe's overturn is tech's privacy apocalypse
#104Plenty of uproar after Roe v Wade overturning, even here in the EU but.. The real shame is leaving lawmaking to the courts due to political opportunism. I am fully in favor of legalized abortion, but why was it never codified in law? Not a priority according to democratic politicians. Not a priority. So, you reap what you sow if you ask me. I learned that many countries, including my own, made, and make that mistake…
https://www.dailywire.com/news/jessica-biel-takes-shot-at-am... This article is illustrative of the ignorance, malice, and hypocrisy of America's social elite. Jessica Biel implies France has women's rights while the U.S. does not. And yet: * Neither France, nor any other nation I am aware of, provides a constitutional right to abortion. * The law upheld by the Dobbs decision is less restrictive on abortion than Fran…
I remember as a kid being baffled by our so called progressive country sending the abortion boat "women on waves" to Ireland to provide Irish women with abortions in international waters. Also activists shooting anti conception over the border with Poland.
But isn't all of this antithetical to ever growing government structures?
I get a feeling the world is heading towards a new fundamental discussion on this topic, and others, but I am afraid it will not be friendly discussions.
Re: Roe's overturn is tech's privacy apocalypse
#105Earlier quoted context omitted.
And if abortion is going to be decided by the states, what state law is Google violating? CA isn't going to make not sharing this data illegal.
The states in which the abortion clinics are already starting to close due to the ruling. [1] [1]: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-61933814
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The legal basis for the roe decision is "a general right to privacy" which was argued on the basis that the 10th amendment reserves unenumerated rights(0) to be regulated by the states, then preserved for the individual. Since the constitution makes no mention of privacy, if you believe it's a right, it would fall into the category of "unenumerated". IIRC prior to roe, there are no supreme court decisions about the r…
^ This. Roe vs. Wade wasn't about abortion, it was about privacy. That's why they're already talking about voiding gay and interracial marriage bans, they were based on that precedent. Here's a consequence that should speak to tech-types: there are two arguments against mandatory NSA backdoors into encryption used by tech companies, 1) a fundamental right to privacy, and 2) these backdoors are intrinsically hackable.…
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The US's constitutional system doesn't work well in a polarized environment. There are too many veto points, two conflicting branches that can each claim to be "legitimately elected", and even the elected branches don't represent the popular will due to compromises made in the pre-modern era. We've papered over the effects of this paralysis by delegating power to the executive agencies and the Courts, but this era is…
The most law that affects the most people day to day has always been State law. I wouldn’t expect any kind of legislation coming out of Congress on this (but many attempts both ways regardless), and I think if there were any that passed that would not actually help our politics. Not everything need be an Act of Congress. Every State has an elected legislature.
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The thing where politicians hold any sort of progressive legislation hostage with extortionate demands over unrelated issues is a common theme across countries. Like government funded Catholic schools in Canada. Something that shouldn't exist anymore but whoops it's in the constitution so it's going to be there forever now because no one would ever agree to just one change.
It can be changed. Quebec used to have to fund Protestant (probably Anglican) schools. At some point in the last few decades, their part of the Constitution was updated so that they have to fund English-language schools. Ontario currently doesn’t have the political will to change this, but it isn’t entirely immutable. (Interestingly, there are a few Protestant schools funded in some places in Ontario, where the major…
Not true
> and causing another round of people and companies to leave Quebec as they did because of René Lévesque and the PQ.
How to tell me you're an angryphone without telling me you're an angryphone (and totally ignoring historical facts in the process)
Re: Roe's overturn is tech's privacy apocalypse
#109Plenty of uproar after Roe v Wade overturning, even here in the EU but.. The real shame is leaving lawmaking to the courts due to political opportunism. I am fully in favor of legalized abortion, but why was it never codified in law? Not a priority according to democratic politicians. Not a priority. So, you reap what you sow if you ask me. I learned that many countries, including my own, made, and make that mistake…
https://www.dailywire.com/news/jessica-biel-takes-shot-at-am... This article is illustrative of the ignorance, malice, and hypocrisy of America's social elite. Jessica Biel implies France has women's rights while the U.S. does not. And yet: * Neither France, nor any other nation I am aware of, provides a constitutional right to abortion. * The law upheld by the Dobbs decision is less restrictive on abortion than Fran…
I don't see why it has to be a constitutional right (constitutions aren't the only things that codify rights), but for what it's worth there's an ongoing proposal which will probably pass, overwhelmingly, to add abortion as a constitutional right in France.
Re: Roe's overturn is tech's privacy apocalypse
#110Plenty of uproar after Roe v Wade overturning, even here in the EU but.. The real shame is leaving lawmaking to the courts due to political opportunism. I am fully in favor of legalized abortion, but why was it never codified in law? Not a priority according to democratic politicians. Not a priority. So, you reap what you sow if you ask me. I learned that many countries, including my own, made, and make that mistake…
> why was it never codified in law Because a large part of the country is against late-stage abortions, and there is a need to keep a semblance of democracy?