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Why I am not going to buy a computer (1987) [pdf]

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Re: Why I am not going to buy a computer (1987) [pdf]

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> My wife types my work on a Royal standard typewriter bought new in 1956 and as good now as it was then. This was written in the late 80s, but I'd guess they're still using that typewriter over 60 years after it's purchase. Not saying I completely agree with his whole essay, but there's not a lot of computing equipment still in use (or considered usable) from that era. > But the cost would not be just mone- tary. It…

A laptop from 20 years ago would almost certainly have USB ports. The first computer I saw them on was a Sony VAIO in 1997. Compaq was also sporting them at the time, and of course Apple heavily adopted them in 1998. By 2000, practically every computer had them. Yes a USB stick should work with those. USB floppy drives can still be purchased, and will generally work with anything, including android phones lol. https:…

Interesting. At 1.4 Million views, I wonder how much revenue the poster made by stretching the video out to to 12 minutes by adding so much filler when it could have just been 2 minutes long.

I wonder how many manhours in total of people's lives that content-producer destroyed for a few extra bucks.

(Over 31 manyears wasted watching that video, what a shame. That's longer than some people live.)

Re: Why I am not going to buy a computer (1987) [pdf]

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You are arguing shades of grey. 1. You only have so much effort to spend. 2. You won't be able to please everyone with it. IE result. Sure, for any large enough building (significant effort anyway to spend!) expecting a reasonable chunk of the population through the door a wheelchair ramp(decent chunk of populace affected) should be du jour. Hell, it is a wheelchair ramp not rocket science, I'd be happy to see them i…

"The world" may keep changing, but "my applications" will continue to bend over backwards to accommodate every scenario I can imagine.

I'm glad people like you exist and want to make the world a better place for everyone you possibly can.

I suspect you will continue to find ways your applications are not received in the context you hoped. But is also an opportunity to do better which it seems you might enjoy.

I also think you won't be financially competitive in the larger world. And while I'd love a world where this doesn't matter, money makes the world go around until humanity as a whole can figure out how to do better. So I don't think many will follow your path.

I honestly wish you the best to make it all work. For my own part, I will continue to try and leave contexts I am involved in better than I found them.

Re: Why I am not going to buy a computer (1987) [pdf]

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Remarkably consistent huh? I wonder whether the process has much to do with that: "My wife types my work on a Royal standard typewriter bought new in 1956 and as good now as it was then. As she types, she sees things that are wrong and marks them with small checks in the margins. She is my best critic because she is the one most familiar with my habitual errors and weaknesses. She also understands, sometimes better t…

It helps to realize that Berry's whole outlook on life was wedded to the idea that the best life is one anchored around one's home -- hence his ideas that good technology is purchased close to home, and repaired close to home, and that one's first best editor is found at home. Most published writers, especially those published before the golden age of self-publishing, worked with editors, and his wife was (and probab…

It is absolutely a situation born of it's time.

Financially no doubt she was covered. Should worse come to worst, by the 1980's divorce could net her significant financial worth of the partnership.

But social credit for her achievements were rather small. It is one thing to have an editor, but quite another for the editor to be wedded to the job for just one writer. Every story/book bore his name, no matter that he happily credits her work in his personal missives.

And so social standards changing in this regard is for the better. But it's not like I think he is a monster - he is a product of his day as much as we are of ours.

Re: Why I am not going to buy a computer (1987) [pdf]

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I'm not sure it is fair. The tone of the essay to me reads as one written by someone who never thought to ask. My wife routinely proof reads my work, and she does do it because she loves me, but I am not so foolish as to believe she loves doing it.

There's nothing in the essay that said he didn't ask, and that she wasn't a willing participant, doing the work because she loves him. (And why wouldn't your wife love proofing your work if she loves you? Just curious if she's told you either way.)

I would not be so mean as to say for certain he did not ask. The tone reads to me as written by the type who does not ask, or more precisely has ended up in a situation where the default is for his wife to proof read his work.

On its most basic level, it reads that Wife does the boring work while the author does the fun creative work. We can not tell from the article but I am highly doubtful that the author proof reads and types his wife's articles.

I would go so far as to be willing to lay a quarter for a nickel that he has never offered and a dollar for a cent that he has never done so.

Re: Why I am not going to buy a computer (1987) [pdf]

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It helps to realize that Berry's whole outlook on life was wedded to the idea that the best life is one anchored around one's home -- hence his ideas that good technology is purchased close to home, and repaired close to home, and that one's first best editor is found at home. Most published writers, especially those published before the golden age of self-publishing, worked with editors, and his wife was (and probab…

It is absolutely a situation born of it's time. Financially no doubt she was covered. Should worse come to worst, by the 1980's divorce could net her significant financial worth of the partnership. But social credit for her achievements were rather small. It is one thing to have an editor, but quite another for the editor to be wedded to the job for just one writer. Every story/book bore his name, no matter that he h…

For a bit more on Tanya Berry's perspective on this:

https://www.yesmagazine.org/issue/solidarity-economy/2017/12...

Re: Why I am not going to buy a computer (1987) [pdf]

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It is absolutely a situation born of it's time. Financially no doubt she was covered. Should worse come to worst, by the 1980's divorce could net her significant financial worth of the partnership. But social credit for her achievements were rather small. It is one thing to have an editor, but quite another for the editor to be wedded to the job for just one writer. Every story/book bore his name, no matter that he h…

For a bit more on Tanya Berry's perspective on this: https://www.yesmagazine.org/issue/solidarity-economy/2017/12...

Thanks. To a large degree I think that many other comments on the original article should read this one too.

In many ways, I feel that this article gives credit to the woman who otherwise was little credited. But apparently, she didn't care either way.

Re: Why I am not going to buy a computer (1987) [pdf]

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For a bit more on Tanya Berry's perspective on this: https://www.yesmagazine.org/issue/solidarity-economy/2017/12...

Thanks. To a large degree I think that many other comments on the original article should read this one too. In many ways, I feel that this article gives credit to the woman who otherwise was little credited. But apparently, she didn't care either way.

I think the interview is important because it seems to say that she chose her role in Berry's life, not that it was imposed upon her, as many people seem to assume.

Re: Why I am not going to buy a computer (1987) [pdf]

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Berry has written extensively about environmental degradation. Notice the caveat above: "if we share". Human greed is the fly in the ointment. Again, he's written extensively on the impact of human greed on the environment. It's not inconsistent to think that there is enough for all and also to think that when we try to grab too much of that stuff for ourselves (more than what we need) that that mutual enough-ness (I…

> Notice the caveat above: "if we share". Human greed is the fly in the ointment. No, it isn't. Basic physics and economics is the fly in the ointment. For a given level of economic activity, a given amount of material wealth will be produced. That wealth can be distributed evenly or unevenly, equitably or inequitably [1], but there is one basic fact that cannot change, which is the that average wealth per capita wil…

>Basic physics and economics is the fly in the ointment.

Laws of physics are (believed to be) universal. Economics, on the other hand, is man-made and can be adjusted as required.

Re: Why I am not going to buy a computer (1987) [pdf]

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> Notice the caveat above: "if we share". Human greed is the fly in the ointment. No, it isn't. Basic physics and economics is the fly in the ointment. For a given level of economic activity, a given amount of material wealth will be produced. That wealth can be distributed evenly or unevenly, equitably or inequitably [1], but there is one basic fact that cannot change, which is the that average wealth per capita wil…

>Basic physics and economics is the fly in the ointment. Laws of physics are (believed to be) universal. Economics, on the other hand, is man-made and can be adjusted as required.

That's what the leaders of the Soviet Union thought. They learned the hard way that it isn't true.

Re: Why I am not going to buy a computer (1987) [pdf]

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post #158

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>Basic physics and economics is the fly in the ointment. Laws of physics are (believed to be) universal. Economics, on the other hand, is man-made and can be adjusted as required.

That's what the leaders of the Soviet Union thought. They learned the hard way that it isn't true.

That's what every leader thought - every country has a slightly different rules - and many of them ended up quite well.
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