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FedEx to close data centers, retire mainframes

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Re: FedEx to close data centers, retire mainframes

#81

Are they really going to save 400 m$, or was it the figure "promised" by the shop that will handle the migration?

$400M sounds huge, but why do I think it’s trivial next to FedEx’s operating budget? A couple years ago they were making 18 Billion* a quarter. * edited from million (meant to type billion)

If think you mean $90 *b*illion a quarter.

Re: FedEx to close data centers, retire mainframes

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post #19

Ultimately companies that abdicate their informatics operations like this will give their profits to their data-center operators, who will be empowered to charge them whatever price they want. Because what's their BATNA? Migrating from Azure to AWS when Microsoft doesn't want to let them? Renting your information infrastructure is a great way to reduce startup costs, but down the road, that information infrastructure…

You can say the same thing for hundreds of parts of a company like FedEx. For example FedEx flies Boeing jets. It's completely reliant on Boeing for parts for those jets. Presumably Boeing can charge whatever it wants. Your company is always going to be reliant on other suppliers and contracts. Unless you're planning on building your own independent country in some location that has all the natural resources you need…

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Re: FedEx to close data centers, retire mainframes

#83
post #8

Is there any gain here aside from cost saving? Will this saving be passed on to the customer? ( laughs ). What happens when the inevitable AWS outage then causes a global shipping bottleneck? Have we still not learnt that having sovereignty is better than saving money? Has COVID taught us nothing? sigh

What’s to gain other than $400M in savings every year indeed? If it drops all the way to the bottom line, that would boost their 2022 profits by 35% and 2021 profits by about 45%. Seems like a decision you have to consider, even with possible failure modes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FedEx

Wikipedia says their net profit for 2021 was $75 billion, so your math seems off.

Re: FedEx to close data centers, retire mainframes

#85

Are they really going to save 400 m$, or was it the figure "promised" by the shop that will handle the migration?

It's likely the 400 m$ is inflated, "by 2024" will be many years late and there will be significant increased costs during the interim period, also likely kept artificially low.

Re: FedEx to close data centers, retire mainframes

#86
post #30

Where are they using all of these data centers and mainframes? That is they are spending at least 400 million to do what exactly? To me that seems like rather high figure in any case for their sites and logistics...

With (most likely) 0 knowledge about the internal details of their business, but with the confidence of the average programmer: "they spend too much".

I imagine Twitter could also be built over a weekend, right? :-)

Re: FedEx to close data centers, retire mainframes

#88
post #30

Where are they using all of these data centers and mainframes? That is they are spending at least 400 million to do what exactly? To me that seems like rather high figure in any case for their sites and logistics...

Yep... A couple of million of packages daily + tracking a fleet of vehicles, client facing site, apis for their tracking and courrier services/devices plus some internal services (billing etc...).. this seems like it would fit on a few racks, not nearly 400million, or whatever the full number is (since 400m are just the savings). But yeah... old company, they might still have stuff written in cobol virtualized somewh…

Their Memphis air hub processes 2 million packages by itself during the season. You also forgot to include FedEx Freight in your estimate.

Re: FedEx to close data centers, retire mainframes

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post #86
post #30

Where are they using all of these data centers and mainframes? That is they are spending at least 400 million to do what exactly? To me that seems like rather high figure in any case for their sites and logistics...

With (most likely) 0 knowledge about the internal details of their business, but with the confidence of the average programmer: "they spend too much". I imagine Twitter could also be built over a weekend, right? :-)

Then again, maybe these savings come from whole same clean-up of services and other stuff they are running... After all there is likely decades of cruft around...

Re: FedEx to close data centers, retire mainframes

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post #83
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What’s to gain other than $400M in savings every year indeed? If it drops all the way to the bottom line, that would boost their 2022 profits by 35% and 2021 profits by about 45%. Seems like a decision you have to consider, even with possible failure modes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FedEx Wikipedia says their net profit for 2021 was $75 billion, so your math seems off.

You are correct that I was wrong. (I searched "fedex profit 2021" and incorrectly reported based on a quarter's profit, which is sloppy as hell on my part.)

That said, it seems like $75B is wildly too high as well. Page 43 of their most recent annual report shows a consolidated net income for the year ending May 31, 2021 as $5.2B, making $400M still a 7.5% boost (if it all passes through).

https://investors.fedex.com/financial-information/annual-rep...

https://s21.q4cdn.com/665674268/files/doc_financials/annual/...

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