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Ask HN: Games which will help increase my appetite for risk?

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Re: Ask HN: Games which will help increase my appetite for risk?

#31
If you don't mind taking a risk on a physical card game (and you have an extra player), you could try out Netrunner (you can print-and-play the excellent starter set from here: https://nisei.net/products/system-gateway/#bundle).

Pitch: You play as either: an elite hacker trying to break into the servers of megacorporations for fun and profit, or the inner workings of said megacorporation, trying to defend against the hacker.

The game requires you to take risks because it's a game about information control. You don't know what the corp will do to defend itself until you make a run at their servers, and corps don't know exactly how the runner plans to get in, or what they'll find when they do.

Re: Ask HN: Games which will help increase my appetite for risk?

#32

Poker with real money. Playing poker with fake money is utterly worthless. There needs to be real money behind your decision making but I promise it is eye opening. Learning how to play poker is one of the most important skills you can learn in life. It teaches you so many things about life: how to make decisions based on incomplete information and being okay with unfavorable outcomes; knowing how to control your ris…

+1 Online poker was very popular in the late 00's/early 10's (Omaha hasn't had AI dominated play - yet.) where people would self-publish and distribute their tips & tricks to new players if you bought their DVD & PDF set. Decisions made at every stage impact how other players interpret and play the game, and forces you to quickly learn situational awareness in order to best adapt in a changing environment. You could start out with memorizing the starting hand probabilities, read what the strongest 5-card combo on the board could be, and then aspire towards playing GTO to maximize the number of hands won. Even though you'd only be playing with a few dollars, the human element of stubbornness kicks in when having to top up your chips after losing a big hand, and that reward mechanism "spins the same gears" in your brain as the endgame in an RTS video game does. Not to mention the boost it gives to real-life skills of dealing with imperfect information events.

Re: Ask HN: Games which will help increase my appetite for risk?

#35

Try CS:GO. A useful and very often under-provisioned role in public games is that of the 'entry man.' Basically your job is to get out as far as you can, spot the enemy positions, and do as much damage as you can. Its your team behind you's job to tack on kills based on the space you made. No one really wants to go out first because you usually die first, and have the least opportunity to get kills if evenly matched…

I came here to say this.

CSGO is also a lot about communication, economy management and decision making.

Surviving a round by backing off and saving a gun can win you the next round.

Mindlessly playing will on the other hand guarantee a loss.

It's also about trust and respect. If your team mate doesn't have your back while defusing the bomb, the enemy will kill you both and you lose the round.

There's just so many things to learn from this game.

The community is mostly neutral quality wise. Some people are toxic, but there are also a lot of great players, that behave empowering.

I love CSGO.

Re: Ask HN: Games which will help increase my appetite for risk?

#36
I'm speculating that risk aversion is a pretty basic trait, and linked to your sensitivity to certain brain chemistry.

I have a low sensitivity to adrenaline, I need extreme stimuli to feel a "rush" in my stomach.. But like anyone, a good adrenaline rush once in a while is great.. Someone might get that from playing a computer game or watching a horror movie.. or trading stock.. I need to drive a race bike around a track at high speed, or downhill mountainbike or bungee jump or parachute.. When I get back from such a thing, I'm so happy, because I felt "that thing", and then I start reflecting on the risk.. "I'm not doing that again, it went ok this time but what about the next.." months later, I'm planning to do it again, because I do need to feel sometimes sometime.

I'm jealous of people who can get this from watching a horror movie, luxury to have it available, safe in your living room, as much as you want..

You might engage in some risk taking more often to desensitize yourself, even if low risk, but real risk, and it should be risk you actually take, not just simulate.. Just be aware that it's not damaging you too much. I'd not recommend gambling (or stock), because it could devastate you financially.

The real risk of computer games (which I do love) is bad health and obesity.. I don't believe you can become less risk-averse by doing entirely risk-free activities.

Try something like skiing/snowboarding/mountainbiking. These are still relatively safe activities, you have good control over the amount of risk on a per-second basis. Do it often, push your limits.

Re: Ask HN: Games which will help increase my appetite for risk?

#37
Learning to playing poker analytically based on EV is a good general life skill to have that is applicable to a wide range of scenarios. This is a good free course: https://ocw.mit.edu/courses/15-s50-poker-theory-and-analytic...

For board games I particularly like Diplomacy but it's intensive if played correctly and I've found not everyone is suited to play it.

Re: Ask HN: Games which will help increase my appetite for risk?

#39

XCOM and XCOM2 in Ironman mode (only one autosaved game--all choices are permanent) are excellent choices to learn how to deal with risk. Gameplay is turn-based so you can plan what you want to do calmly, but results are fairly immediate--if you miscalculate a move your soldiers get hurt or die. You have to take risks: you must move your team of soldiers ahead into the darkness to accomplish a mission, but there coul…

If you want to learn about risk, modern XCOM is a bad choice. Modern XCOM lies to the player in order to make the player feel better

It gives a distorted view on how likely 60% really is since the percentage shown is not the same as the one used to calculate the hit or miss.

The game secretly changes the odds for sequential misses making hits more likely after misses. This teaches the player that the gambler's fallacy is not a fallacy at all.

Re: Ask HN: Games which will help increase my appetite for risk?

#40
post #36

I'm speculating that risk aversion is a pretty basic trait, and linked to your sensitivity to certain brain chemistry. I have a low sensitivity to adrenaline, I need extreme stimuli to feel a "rush" in my stomach.. But like anyone, a good adrenaline rush once in a while is great.. Someone might get that from playing a computer game or watching a horror movie.. or trading stock.. I need to drive a race bike around a t…

If it is a basic trait as you point out, I would suggest OP should look into a financial advisor. I don't recommend advisors to everyone, because it is more expensive than DIY portfolios, but having a financial advisor sounds like a good abstraction layer for OP. OP can just tell the advisor financial goals they'd like to reach and the advisor will come up with a portfolio with the appropriate amount of risk to reach those goals.

Given the timing of the post is in a period of economic uncertainty, it could be relevant to point out financial advisors are also good at persuading investors not to make big investment mistakes such as selling when the stock market is down.

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