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Re: Ask HN: How to keep my daughter busy while tickling her curiosity

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I became a single parent when my daughter turned 1 year old. When she got old enough we'd go fishing, bicycling, swimming, and hiking a lot. We'd also go to a used book store twice a month (on pay day) so she could pick out a few books to read. She loved doing that.

She had no interest at all in learning how to code or gaming but she loved helping in the garden and in the kitchen prepping and cooking meals.

When she got to Jr. High she wanted to join the "Cheerleader" squad so there were a lot early morning rides to school I had to make, and lot's of Basketball games I attended until she graduated, but I had a lot fun cheering along with them.

During those years I setup a campsite on our property so her and her friends could go hang out there. I'm sure they had more fun than most parents would approve of but they never got into any real trouble, the police were never called, and no one got hurt bad enough for the parents to call me. For the most part all those parents knew exactly where their kids were and what they were doing. And that I was close enough to deal with anything that came up. But there were never any serious issues.

She's 37 years old now, still loves to hike, backpack, swim, fish, garden, and cook, and most important, she still likes to hang out with me!

Re: Ask HN: How to keep my daughter busy while tickling her curiosity

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post #117

Maybe the rest of HN has a similar, better option, but I could recommend LEGO Mindstorms. Eleven would be a good age to start getting curious about robots and automation. You should of course, help her with it, as it may be too complex for her to handle alone at the start. It is pricey new, but you could get an older version used for cheaper. There's also Nintendo Labo, for a similar, less expensive version.

Not quite the same thing, but, speaking of expensive parts. This post seems like the place to share the findings.

As a kid, I would absolutely love to have some of the Lego(-compatible) motors [0] that are now available on the Chinese market for a few bucks a piece.

Some of the 'regular' sets [1] look quite tempting, too. In the bang for the buck department, at least.

[0] https://aliexpress.com/item/1005004221490793.html

[1] https://aliexpress.com/item/1005003548518388.html

Re: Ask HN: How to keep my daughter busy while tickling her curiosity

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If she’s into science and physics, I think that’s a great age to get her interested in radio.

I recommend starting with an RTLSDR ($30 on Amazon) and a homemade dipole. You can use an open source program called GQRX to listen to it. This will be fun to just listen to local FM radio, air traffic controllers, EMS/Police in your area if it’s not encrypted.

If she seems interested and you want to go a bit further, buy a block frequency upconverter (there’s one on Amazon called “ham it up” for ~$30) and make a large antenna for the 20M ham band. You’ll be able to pick up people from all over the country, and if you do a good job on the antenna, all over the world.

Most importantly, it’s fun and you get to work with your hands. You get to have fun trying to get ropes over trees in your yard to hang the antenna high enough. You get to deal with the problem of measuring out 60 feet of wire and cutting it. You have to figure out what trees to hang the antenna on so that it’s pointing where you want to listen (not directly East, but northeast due to the curvature of the earth, Google maps “measure distance” can help give a vector). This is all done with a cheap run of coax and speaker wire, no more than $40 in materials.

If she’s into it, you can get your ham radio technician license for a $15 fee, and you can get two way radios on Amazon for the VHF/UHF bands for $20 (baofeng UV5R). Fun to study for.

Re: Ask HN: How to keep my daughter busy while tickling her curiosity

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You would be surprised how much more relevant info programmers miss... Example, most programmers I know have no idea when a variable gets allocated on the stack and when it's on the heap. Let's not talk about how many dont even know what a (stack overflow)[ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stack_buffer_overflow ] is...

I remember being shocked to discover that a recent CS grad could not implement a factorial function using recursion. I can understand why you wouldn’t want to do that, but to not be able to do it?

a lot of CS undergrads compress out recursion knowledge. They learn that most recursion is best skipped in favor of iteration/dp, and they learn that they should implement things efficiently.

It’s possible the undergrad assumed you were referring to an efficient recursive algorithm or simply forgot most recursion.

Re: Ask HN: How to keep my daughter busy while tickling her curiosity

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post #141

I became a single parent when my daughter turned 1 year old. When she got old enough we'd go fishing, bicycling, swimming, and hiking a lot. We'd also go to a used book store twice a month (on pay day) so she could pick out a few books to read. She loved doing that. She had no interest at all in learning how to code or gaming but she loved helping in the garden and in the kitchen prepping and cooking meals. When she…

We have such a weird culture around how we treat teenagers in this country. We all remember drinking and smoking as teens, but parents tends to rule with an iron fist and convince themselves that they have more control than their parents did, which means we force healthy normal curious kids to go out to a secluded area (probably by car) to get high or drunk or explore in other ways, away from an adult that could help if something goes wrong, and at a much greater chance of involving the police and putting their future in jeopardy. I respect you for giving your daughter and her friends a safe place to just be normal teenagers. I’m not saying parents should buy their teens a bottle of vodka but everyone should start from a place of being realistic and reducing harm.

Re: Ask HN: How to keep my daughter busy while tickling her curiosity

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been programming for 15 years and had to google what NAND was. Had a sense of XOR

To be fair, AND, OR and NOT are enough to compute any function, and you can make all the other operators out of a combination of those three. For example A XOR B is just (A OR B) AND (NOT (A AND B)). Knowing things beyond AND, OR or NOT is useful, but not strictly necessary. XOR has useful properties though: with random inputs you get TRUE 50% of the time, allowing you to chain it without trending to 0 or 1; also it'…

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Re: Ask HN: How to keep my daughter busy while tickling her curiosity

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post #141

I became a single parent when my daughter turned 1 year old. When she got old enough we'd go fishing, bicycling, swimming, and hiking a lot. We'd also go to a used book store twice a month (on pay day) so she could pick out a few books to read. She loved doing that. She had no interest at all in learning how to code or gaming but she loved helping in the garden and in the kitchen prepping and cooking meals. When she…

Nice. The library, used book stores and Blockbuster video were some of our favorites, especially when the weather was bad.

Re: Ask HN: How to keep my daughter busy while tickling her curiosity

#149

Might be off topic but a nugget from having two girls (5 and 11). Kids don’t care about budget or how much things cost. We have toys we’ve spent hundreds of dollars on only to have the near free to free one be a hit. I say this to make sure you know your employment status likely only effects your kids if it effects you. Or said differently, to the extent it effects you it will effect them. Kids will generally have fu…

Very true. And very counter-intuitive. A cardboard box I turned into a playhouse in like three minutes is still one of my daughter’s favorite play things. The LEGO I bought her, on the other hand, is pretty much collecting dust.
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