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Tesla Autopilot Almost Steers Model 3 into Oncoming Train
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#22it's absolutely surreal to me that 1) this is allowed to be used on public roads and 2) that Tesla is permitted to call whatever they've invented "self driving" or "autonomous".
I really don't understand how Tesla markets something as "Autopilot" and "Full Self-Driving" and then also says "oh it's beta" and "you must be ready to take control of the car at any second".
I’m a lawyer, and I don’t get it.
How hasn’t the FCC shut them down? I get it, they have an asterisk, and the asterisk makes clear that it’s not full self driving.
But this feels to me like selling a product as boneless, including an asterisk, and then saying “actually not boneless, chew carefully”.
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#24I used it every day and it does almost all of my daily driving. If it never improves from where it is now, it will be worth the $6k I paid for it. And yeah, you gotta watch it and pay attention.
No snark intended, but doesn't having to constantly pay attention and be ready to take over control negate a lot of the benefit of the self-driving features? It seems like you'd have to apply just as much mental energy to the task as if you were actually driving, so the only real benefit is that you don't have to physically make the motions. In fact in some ways it seems mentally worse, since when you're driving you aren't surprised by sudden turns in front of trams and the like. With self-driving, there's a constant possibility of those kind of surprises, so I would think it would feel a lot like riding in the passenger seat with a new teenage driver.
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#25Theres really no need to for autonomous driving is there>
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
Though many cities have them they're sort of glossed over in drivers ed and it clearly shows at times.
Do people really need a lesson to know not to turn just in front of a tram?
People still do despite knowing this. Loss of licence is the only cure.
My biggest peeve are idiots pulling in too close in front of a 44 ton truck just so they can turn left.
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#27Why is the US allowing this beta testing of a feature that impacts safety to continue? There have to be at least dozens of documented cases of this being unsafe. Have regulators just given up or are they that incompetent?
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#28Was the train running a red light? This seems confusing for a human driver, too. I'm usually looking for cars and pedestrians, not trains when turning left.
No it was not. If you get a green light without a green left arrow this means that you can turn left only if you yield to on coming traffic. This is a pretty basic traffic rule. The tram had a green light. The tesla had a green light but it had to wait for the opposing lane to be clear before it could go.
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#29I used it every day and it does almost all of my daily driving. If it never improves from where it is now, it will be worth the $6k I paid for it. And yeah, you gotta watch it and pay attention.
But is the base lane keep adaptive cruise control not enough? What additions are worth $6k to you?
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#30The fact that this can be solved using LiDAR, just seems irresponsible to not