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Post by Tepix »

Aachen wrote: post #103
robonerd wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They could serve you javascript that exploits your browser. At the very least, they could replace that bitcoin donation address with their own. That's a tempting target if nothing else.

If you think you're high value enough to have someone target you specifically by getting on your LAN or gaining access to (or coercing) an upstream ISP to serve you a browser 0-day reachable only by laying in wait for you to visit an HTTP site because there is no other way in, that's not going to be for a free books website.

This is a site asking you to commit piracy, i can totally see the some agency intercept it and replace the onion addresses with theirs so they can track everyone down.

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Post by zozbot234 »

grumbel wrote: post #278
half-kh-hacker wrote: post #272

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a jumping-off point for thought: Piracy-by-default would work very well in a world where access to a work is not charged, but the social custom is that revenue is collected via pre- or during-production crowdfunding You may see lower revenues, but how much cost is currently poured into resolving licensing / investing in DRM / etc, all for works to be pirated anyway?

While that is not fundamentally impossible, Star Citizen is so far the only crowdfunded thing I know that managed to collect AAA-game levels of money. Pretty much everything else isn't making nearly enough to actually finance the project and requires more funding outside of the crowdfunding. Furthermore, a lot of successful crowdfunding is build up on prior copyrighted work. People spend money on Star Citizen because…

Yes, AAA games and live-action movies are so costly to make that they generally wouldn't get traction on crowdfunding platforms if they insisted on full funding. So we get this middle-of-the-road solution where crowdfunding pays for a fraction of the costs, with the rest to be recovered via post-release sales. But other kinds of content don't have that issue to anywhere near the same extent.

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Post by freetanga »

plmu wrote: post #210

Excellent. I hope more and more people start to see how absurd and evil the concept of "intellectual property" is. It should be totally rejected and any form of keeping useful information for yourself should be shunned and tabooized. In todays world, many have been programmed to believe that the would could not exits without such immoral restrictions, which is horrible.

If you spend time learning, spend time putting together your knowledge, and spend time sharing, it is very sensible you expect some economic return if you choose to. Alternatively you can Open Source. It’s the authors choice.

But we live in an infant society, with many grown ups acting like spoilt childrens, saying “I want to get that fancy FAANG job, I want to be wealthy, and I expect to do it copy-pasting others people knowledge and infringing IP, but if someone else begs to differ I start whining”

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Post by klez »

zasdffaa wrote: post #273
alexb_ wrote: post #269

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15 years period should be enough. If you haven't contributed anything to society within the past 15 years, why should you get to live off the 1 thing you did? Shouldn't you be incentivized to be productive? That's the point of copyright law in the first place after all.

It's extremely easy to say what you say without having written a book. Harry Potter into public domain I'm prob OK with but some people put years of their life into technical books. My father did. EDIT: ach, didn't read your post propely - first line says " I'm also write technical writing (including academic publications)" so you have a strong position to hold your view - sorry (deleted)

> Harry Potter into public domain I'm prob OK with but some people put years of their life into technical books. My father did.

So did JK Rowling. So what's the difference?

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Post by freetanga »

atoav wrote: post #231
zasdffaa wrote: post #217

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I've just spent 2 years writing something which ain't got anything else like it. It was technically pretty difficult and needed a lot of background knowledge. Should I be disallowed to commercialise it? I partly get where you stand but if I was in a society that you seem to endorse my first question would be, other than for the love of doing it, why sink so much effort into a thing only to get nothing back. It almost…

As a musician and filmmaker I see it like this: once my work is published I stop to be in total control of it. That means I cannot control (or sometimes even know ) what paths my works will take, how it is being understood, who will do what with it etc. Of course I like to be credited for my work — but some fan adding my work to a pirate page would not be a concern but rather a bit flattering. What would anger me wou…

You can always publish it under a free license. Your choice, previous post can choose differently and charge.

Nothing wrong with expecting to get paid for your work. If as a consumer you don’t want to pay, stick to open source and freely licensed media.

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Post by dncornholio »

grumbel wrote: post #275
rightbyte wrote: post #271

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> It could also result in far more draconian DRM, as that would be the only way left to protect your work. There is no way to protect video, audio or text from being copied. DRM just prevents low effort consumer copying.

There are plenty of ways. Limit playback only to official DRM-locked devices and have those devices film the user. The moment a camera makes it into the picture you block their account for life. That's not even new tech, 3D face detection is standard part of many smartphones and laptops. And companies like Facebook have no problem locking you out forever from their services, for much milder infractions. Or more pract…

Cinema rips were pretty bad even before cinema's started filming the audience.. Hardly worth watching.

Other than that, all DRM does it makes it harder, not impossible, to copy.

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Post by no_time »

dandanua wrote: post #261
plmu wrote: post #210

Excellent. I hope more and more people start to see how absurd and evil the concept of "intellectual property" is. It should be totally rejected and any form of keeping useful information for yourself should be shunned and tabooized. In todays world, many have been programmed to believe that the would could not exits without such immoral restrictions, which is horrible.

Right, fuck book writers and inventors. Also, the information about nuclear, chemical and bio weapons should be accessible to everyone. Preferably as DIY recipes, that you can follow at home.

Bad example.

If a regular citizen can get his hands on tools/materials to make things like that, you are screwed sooner or later.

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Post by zasdffaa »

klez wrote: post #284
zasdffaa wrote: post #273

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's extremely easy to say what you say without having written a book. Harry Potter into public domain I'm prob OK with but some people put years of their life into technical books. My father did. EDIT: ach, didn't read your post propely - first line says " I'm also write technical writing (including academic publications)" so you have a strong position to hold your view - sorry (deleted)

> Harry Potter into public domain I'm prob OK with but some people put years of their life into technical books. My father did. So did JK Rowling. So what's the difference?

Yep, very good point. I take it back.

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Post by hansel_der »

zasdffaa wrote: post #217
plmu wrote: post #210

Excellent. I hope more and more people start to see how absurd and evil the concept of "intellectual property" is. It should be totally rejected and any form of keeping useful information for yourself should be shunned and tabooized. In todays world, many have been programmed to believe that the would could not exits without such immoral restrictions, which is horrible.

I've just spent 2 years writing something which ain't got anything else like it. It was technically pretty difficult and needed a lot of background knowledge. Should I be disallowed to commercialise it? I partly get where you stand but if I was in a society that you seem to endorse my first question would be, other than for the love of doing it, why sink so much effort into a thing only to get nothing back. It almost…

> Should I be disallowed to commercialise it?

ofc not

but since noone can ever prove that his was the first incarnation of an idea, nobody can be criminalized for also doing things in a certain way.

the concept of protecting invention for some time to facilitate reward is not without merit, but the implementation of IP law and practise has gone so far astray that it's overdue to rethink the whole thing.

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Post by mkl »

b112 wrote: post #83
mkl wrote: post #49

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Seems unlikely, as "wary" appears to be the more common word (71M Google results vs 55M). Maybe some keyboard mistakenly does it though.

Not sure why the count is relevant here. Both are valid words.

But automatically replacing a valid word with a less-common valid word that makes less sense in the context is not something predictive text should do.
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