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Re: Pirate Library Mirror: Preserving 7TB of books (that are not in Libgen)

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Post by rightbyte »

grumbel wrote: post #259
plmu wrote: post #210

Excellent. I hope more and more people start to see how absurd and evil the concept of "intellectual property" is. It should be totally rejected and any form of keeping useful information for yourself should be shunned and tabooized. In todays world, many have been programmed to believe that the would could not exits without such immoral restrictions, which is horrible.

I can't imagine getting rid of it completely would have good effects, as it would make any large scale production impossible. You might still get a few blog post, but getting books produced will be tricky and something big like a movie might be outright impossible. This is doubly true in the modern digital world were everything can be copied in a fraction of a second and where the piracy site, not the authors, will b…

> It could also result in far more draconian DRM, as that would be the only way left to protect your work.

There is no way to protect video, audio or text from being copied. DRM just prevents low effort consumer copying.

Re: Pirate Library Mirror: Preserving 7TB of books (that are not in Libgen)

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Post by half-kh-hacker »

grumbel wrote: post #259
plmu wrote: post #210

Excellent. I hope more and more people start to see how absurd and evil the concept of "intellectual property" is. It should be totally rejected and any form of keeping useful information for yourself should be shunned and tabooized. In todays world, many have been programmed to believe that the would could not exits without such immoral restrictions, which is horrible.

I can't imagine getting rid of it completely would have good effects, as it would make any large scale production impossible. You might still get a few blog post, but getting books produced will be tricky and something big like a movie might be outright impossible. This is doubly true in the modern digital world were everything can be copied in a fraction of a second and where the piracy site, not the authors, will b…

As a jumping-off point for thought: Piracy-by-default would work very well in a world where access to a work is not charged, but the social custom is that revenue is collected via pre- or during-production crowdfunding

You may see lower revenues, but how much cost is currently poured into resolving licensing / investing in DRM / etc, all for works to be pirated anyway?

Re: Pirate Library Mirror: Preserving 7TB of books (that are not in Libgen)

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Post by zasdffaa »

alexb_ wrote: post #269
ahmadmijot wrote: post #265

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm also write technical writing (including academic publications) and I do feel like I need to get monetary gains from all my works. But I also believe that copyright law is too restricted and too long (15 years after the death of original author/artist/writer/etc should be enough)

15 years period should be enough. If you haven't contributed anything to society within the past 15 years, why should you get to live off the 1 thing you did? Shouldn't you be incentivized to be productive? That's the point of copyright law in the first place after all.

It's extremely easy to say what you say without having written a book. Harry Potter into public domain I'm prob OK with but some people put years of their life into technical books. My father did.

EDIT: ach, didn't read your post propely - first line says " I'm also write technical writing (including academic publications)" so you have a strong position to hold your view - sorry

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Re: Pirate Library Mirror: Preserving 7TB of books (that are not in Libgen)

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Post by DataWraith »

stavros wrote: post #120

I see things like this, and I wonder why the following software doesn't exist: I want a piece of software to which I can add a collection of files, say multiple TB. The software will then behave a bit like a BitTorrent tracker, and know which peer has which files. A peer joining this swarm will be able to say "I want to donate X GB of space", and the tracker would tell it "OK, then download and seed these files, whic…

Something similar exists: iabackup[1][2]. It is designed to host an independent copy of (some of) the Internet Archive using git-annex. You tell it how much storage you want to donate and git-annex fills your disk with data from the least-seeded files IIRC. Its focus is on data backup, not data serving though.

[1]: https://git-annex.branchable.com/design/iabackup/ [2]: https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/INTERNETARCHIVE.BAK/g...

Re: Pirate Library Mirror: Preserving 7TB of books (that are not in Libgen)

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Post by grumbel »

rightbyte wrote: post #271
grumbel wrote: post #259

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't imagine getting rid of it completely would have good effects, as it would make any large scale production impossible. You might still get a few blog post, but getting books produced will be tricky and something big like a movie might be outright impossible. This is doubly true in the modern digital world were everything can be copied in a fraction of a second and where the piracy site, not the authors, will b…

> It could also result in far more draconian DRM, as that would be the only way left to protect your work. There is no way to protect video, audio or text from being copied. DRM just prevents low effort consumer copying.

There are plenty of ways. Limit playback only to official DRM-locked devices and have those devices film the user. The moment a camera makes it into the picture you block their account for life. That's not even new tech, 3D face detection is standard part of many smartphones and laptops. And companies like Facebook have no problem locking you out forever from their services, for much milder infractions.

Or more practically, just look at cinemas. They already film the audience to prevent filming and with great success. While you still get illegal copies of a movie easily, it's only extremely low quality smartphone rubbish. The high quality piracy videos only shows up months later once the films hit streaming services or Bluray.

And all of that is just current tech, lets assume VR will become a success in the future. Now you have a device on your head that tracks every little one of your moves, including things like heart rate and eye-tracking. Furthermore, what streams to you isn't an easily ripable 2D copy of the movie, but the 3D view of sitting in a cinema. Good luck trying to rip that. And of course tamper proof hardware is a thing as well, so any attempt at opening it up will automatically self destruct it and phone home that you tampered with it.

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Post by Tepix »

pnutjam wrote: post #128
harry8 wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What on earth does "reputable" mean here? Total compliance with the regulatory capture of publishing companies? Full support of the landgrab claims of the Disney corporation et al? You don't have to be an anarchist to look at the status quo and think some amount of civil disobedience is the correct, proper and right thing to do. Also believing that a claim, fully Disney supported, that such an amount of civil disobed…

IRC, ebook highway.

Might as well link the guide: https://www.reddit.com/r/Piracy/comments/2oftbu/guide_the_id...

Re: Pirate Library Mirror: Preserving 7TB of books (that are not in Libgen)

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Post by Tepix »

robertwt7 wrote: post #234

I would love to contribute on seeding the torrents. However what happens when there are new books in z-lib? Is this only 1 time mirror? How do we expand the collection after a certain amount of time.

Apparently the books are numbered and they will be adding new torrents regularly.

Re: Pirate Library Mirror: Preserving 7TB of books (that are not in Libgen)

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Post by grumbel »

half-kh-hacker wrote: post #272
grumbel wrote: post #259

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't imagine getting rid of it completely would have good effects, as it would make any large scale production impossible. You might still get a few blog post, but getting books produced will be tricky and something big like a movie might be outright impossible. This is doubly true in the modern digital world were everything can be copied in a fraction of a second and where the piracy site, not the authors, will b…

As a jumping-off point for thought: Piracy-by-default would work very well in a world where access to a work is not charged, but the social custom is that revenue is collected via pre- or during-production crowdfunding You may see lower revenues, but how much cost is currently poured into resolving licensing / investing in DRM / etc, all for works to be pirated anyway?

While that is not fundamentally impossible, Star Citizen is so far the only crowdfunded thing I know that managed to collect AAA-game levels of money. Pretty much everything else isn't making nearly enough to actually finance the project and requires more funding outside of the crowdfunding. Furthermore, a lot of successful crowdfunding is build up on prior copyrighted work. People spend money on Star Citizen because they liked Wing Commander and Freelancer. Without copyright, those earlier works might not have existed to begin with or never gained the popularity they got.

Re: Pirate Library Mirror: Preserving 7TB of books (that are not in Libgen)

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Post by Tepix »

cookiengineer wrote: post #41
SquareWheel wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you really want your ISP to know which piracy sites you frequent? This is all being sent in plain text. Or they could change the content, insert a redirect, or inject ads without your knowledge. TLS is needed on all websites - not just those with interaction.

I hate to break it to you, but why do you think ISPs override the DNS responses with TTL set to 0? TLS itself is only useful if you also rely on DNS over HTTPS/TLS. Well, setting the issues with TLS 1.2 and earlier aside.

> why do you think ISPs override the DNS responses with TTL set to 0

mine doesn't.

Re: Pirate Library Mirror: Preserving 7TB of books (that are not in Libgen)

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Post by klez »

worldshit wrote: post #267
einpoklum wrote: post #256

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Should I be disallowed to commercialise it? I believe you are mis-phrasing the question. What you're actually asking is: > Should the state criminalize and punish people who make copies of my work, to facilitate my commercial activity with it? And our answer is "No". You can go ahead and engage in whatever commercial activity you like, based on open access to your work.

> based on open access to your work Can I freely use your toilet then? your electricity? You pay for the plumber, why don't you pay for entertainment? Scientific knowledge must be open, but most copyrighted work is entertainment.

> Can I freely use your toilet then? your electricity?

No because once you used them I don't have them anymore. There's a reason IP has different rules than physical property.

> You pay for the plumber, why don't you pay for entertainment?

Ok, that's a more appropriate analogy, but then again, should my plumber get a recurring fee for the work they already did, when I use the faucet to give drinks to my friends?

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