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Pirate Library Mirror: Preserving 7TB of books (that are not in Libgen)

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Re: Pirate Library Mirror: Preserving 7TB of books (that are not in Libgen)

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post #210

Excellent. I hope more and more people start to see how absurd and evil the concept of "intellectual property" is. It should be totally rejected and any form of keeping useful information for yourself should be shunned and tabooized. In todays world, many have been programmed to believe that the would could not exits without such immoral restrictions, which is horrible.

Right, fuck book writers and inventors.

Also, the information about nuclear, chemical and bio weapons should be accessible to everyone. Preferably as DIY recipes, that you can follow at home.

Re: Pirate Library Mirror: Preserving 7TB of books (that are not in Libgen)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've just spent 2 years writing something which ain't got anything else like it. It was technically pretty difficult and needed a lot of background knowledge. Should I be disallowed to commercialise it? I partly get where you stand but if I was in a society that you seem to endorse my first question would be, other than for the love of doing it, why sink so much effort into a thing only to get nothing back. It almost…

> Should I be disallowed to commercialise it? I believe you are mis-phrasing the question. What you're actually asking is: > Should the state criminalize and punish people who make copies of my work, to facilitate my commercial activity with it? And our answer is "No". You can go ahead and engage in whatever commercial activity you like, based on open access to your work.

That's a constructive answer, so thanks, although I have to ask your view of how BSD was used by apple to build a massive fortune but without paying significantly back to the BSD community.

Overheard from an IP lawyer I stood near to once - something about f/oss software being incorporated into commercial products being a big issue (for the free stuff, not the company doing the 'stealing' of it). Your view?

Re: Pirate Library Mirror: Preserving 7TB of books (that are not in Libgen)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've just spent 2 years writing something which ain't got anything else like it. It was technically pretty difficult and needed a lot of background knowledge. Should I be disallowed to commercialise it? I partly get where you stand but if I was in a society that you seem to endorse my first question would be, other than for the love of doing it, why sink so much effort into a thing only to get nothing back. It almost…

If you as a private person own a patent, you are losing it anyways...because you cannot fight some mega corporation in court to defend it. It's too expensive, and the biggest corps just take what they want due to having more financial resources. Note that if you don't defend it in court, our justice system thinks it is less valueable to protect. Which in itself is kind of ridiculous. Also, right to commercialization…

The solution is simple:

ONLY private persons should own patents, and it should be illegal even for employers or institutions (academic, research) to own patents of people employed to do research. At most companies and istitutions should be allowed to add a clause of "perpetual-free-usage of any patents of employees resulting from direct work" - but an employee or group-of-employees holdig a patent should still be able to license it to other companies too. If businesses are hurt, that's GOOD, most should not exist as coagulated entities.

We're not gonna have proper freedom preserving capitalism ultil we properly decentralize: we all work like swarms of 1-person-companies / solopreneurs contracting between eachother. (No, not the gig-economy, in that distopia we're all still slaves that can't band together to fight the masters.) Legislation will automatically have to be refacored to make this work. With some exceptions, only human individuals should hold most property, not companies and not institutions. Groups/collectives only when the group members directly worked together and know eachother.

And Intellectual Property would just "click in" in in such context. IP sounds hellish and disfunctional because our own practically techno-communist society (yeah, even USA is practically "communist" nowadays in a way - newsflash: "the reds" have won! even the f symbolism is there, "the red pill" is the good one now... all's backwards) is messed up. It makes perfect sense in a hyper-decentralized hyper-individualistic REALLY democratic and REALLY capitalist society.

Re: Pirate Library Mirror: Preserving 7TB of books (that are not in Libgen)

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post #124

Again, it's just insane to me that we don't even much have a meaningful discussion of: "Hey, wait, literally everyone could have the entire library of Alexandria in their house for a couple hundred bucks per person. Like, all the knowledge ever. Maybe that should be considered the good default of things. At least one in every town that everyone could use, for free, forever, without restriction to ANY of the knowledge…

As a kid, my parents had a full copy of the Library of Alexandria on the coffee table. Everyone else just called it an ashtray. (Sorry, too soon?)

have your upvote. now show yourself out.

Re: Pirate Library Mirror: Preserving 7TB of books (that are not in Libgen)

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post #210

Excellent. I hope more and more people start to see how absurd and evil the concept of "intellectual property" is. It should be totally rejected and any form of keeping useful information for yourself should be shunned and tabooized. In todays world, many have been programmed to believe that the would could not exits without such immoral restrictions, which is horrible.

I've just spent 2 years writing something which ain't got anything else like it. It was technically pretty difficult and needed a lot of background knowledge. Should I be disallowed to commercialise it? I partly get where you stand but if I was in a society that you seem to endorse my first question would be, other than for the love of doing it, why sink so much effort into a thing only to get nothing back. It almost…

I'm also write technical writing (including academic publications) and I do feel like I need to get monetary gains from all my works. But I also believe that copyright law is too restricted and too long (15 years after the death of original author/artist/writer/etc should be enough)

Re: Pirate Library Mirror: Preserving 7TB of books (that are not in Libgen)

#266

I see things like this, and I wonder why the following software doesn't exist: I want a piece of software to which I can add a collection of files, say multiple TB. The software will then behave a bit like a BitTorrent tracker, and know which peer has which files. A peer joining this swarm will be able to say "I want to donate X GB of space", and the tracker would tell it "OK, then download and seed these files, whic…

Freenet is built around similar ideas, combined with encryption an anonymization. Which hopefully adds the benefit of you not being legally liable of distributing CSAM. The gist of Freenet is that you can operate a freesite or upload files, and the content is redundantly dispersed in encrypted parts among a number of other Freenet peers. They don't know what they're hosting and neither do you, the client just fills up the allotted space and uses some bandwidth, that's all.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freenet

Regarding of how easy to make something like this network, I'd wager it's pretty hard. There will be a lot of questions, even while establishing the happy path, for example how you manage the updates, especially when you update the protocol, not just the software, and how you effectively manage the volume of search requests, how you distribute the files etc.

And then there's the abuse the network will inevitably get. How you handle spammers, CSAM, malware, ISPs that throttle/block you, the legal risk you put your clients up to, etc. Nice big can of worms. To begin opening it, I suggest a reading through Wikipedia's Peer to peer file sharing article, and especially the File sharing modal on the right, which nicely captures the ideas that have been tried so far.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peer-to-peer_file_sharing

Re: Pirate Library Mirror: Preserving 7TB of books (that are not in Libgen)

#267

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've just spent 2 years writing something which ain't got anything else like it. It was technically pretty difficult and needed a lot of background knowledge. Should I be disallowed to commercialise it? I partly get where you stand but if I was in a society that you seem to endorse my first question would be, other than for the love of doing it, why sink so much effort into a thing only to get nothing back. It almost…

> Should I be disallowed to commercialise it? I believe you are mis-phrasing the question. What you're actually asking is: > Should the state criminalize and punish people who make copies of my work, to facilitate my commercial activity with it? And our answer is "No". You can go ahead and engage in whatever commercial activity you like, based on open access to your work.

> based on open access to your work

Can I freely use your toilet then? your electricity? You pay for the plumber, why don't you pay for entertainment?

Scientific knowledge must be open, but most copyrighted work is entertainment.

Re: Pirate Library Mirror: Preserving 7TB of books (that are not in Libgen)

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That's already the case minus the last ~70 years or so. The overwhelming majority of our knowledge is in the public domain, in particular cultural artifacts. It's a nice sentiment but like, people can already go to gutenberg.org and download pretty much most important works of literature in existence and most books have like 5k downloads so there's that.

gutenberg.org is dns blocked in germany. It's easy to get around this (when you know it), but some governments work actively against it....

Only a few works are actually illegal to distribute in Germany. Not the whole site. Project Gutenberg chose to block the whole site instead.

Source: https://cand.pglaf.org/germany/index.html

Re: Pirate Library Mirror: Preserving 7TB of books (that are not in Libgen)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've just spent 2 years writing something which ain't got anything else like it. It was technically pretty difficult and needed a lot of background knowledge. Should I be disallowed to commercialise it? I partly get where you stand but if I was in a society that you seem to endorse my first question would be, other than for the love of doing it, why sink so much effort into a thing only to get nothing back. It almost…

I'm also write technical writing (including academic publications) and I do feel like I need to get monetary gains from all my works. But I also believe that copyright law is too restricted and too long (15 years after the death of original author/artist/writer/etc should be enough)

15 years period should be enough. If you haven't contributed anything to society within the past 15 years, why should you get to live off the 1 thing you did? Shouldn't you be incentivized to be productive? That's the point of copyright law in the first place after all.

Re: Pirate Library Mirror: Preserving 7TB of books (that are not in Libgen)

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post #210

Excellent. I hope more and more people start to see how absurd and evil the concept of "intellectual property" is. It should be totally rejected and any form of keeping useful information for yourself should be shunned and tabooized. In todays world, many have been programmed to believe that the would could not exits without such immoral restrictions, which is horrible.

creating nontrivial intellectual property usually takes a lot of work, work that has to be paid otherwise it could literally not be done, i.e. the great people who create those works could attempt maybe one such work and in most modern cases they would not get close to finishing it before they literally run out of money to pay for rent and food.

the system around intellectual property has some issues but some form of protection / ownership needs to be there.

if you had your wish and the concept of IP was treated as shunned and taboo you would quickly live in a world with vastly diminished amount and quality of art, science and technology.

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