How did timeshares become so deeply associated with slimy sales tactics?
Why nobody ever wins the car at the mall (2018)
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#13I wonder how much money these scams net. Even if this outfit is fully owned and operated by a scuzzy timeshare company, do they really make enough money to justify the $1500/~=22 marks? The article only mentions people being contacted by the timeshare company, but I wonder if they might sell the info as a secondary revenue stream, especially given the waiver which claims to override federal do-not-call lists. How muc…
The 22 marks was in an hour and the $1.5k was rental for a whole day.
Re: Why nobody ever wins the car at the mall (2018)
#14I wonder how much money these scams net. Even if this outfit is fully owned and operated by a scuzzy timeshare company, do they really make enough money to justify the $1500/~=22 marks? The article only mentions people being contacted by the timeshare company, but I wonder if they might sell the info as a secondary revenue stream, especially given the waiver which claims to override federal do-not-call lists. How muc…
> do they really make enough money to justify the $1500/~=22 marks
I was wondering the same, but one thing that helps the math in their favor a bit was that the 22 was in one hour on a weekday afternoon. I imagine it’s higher on weekends and evenings.
Re: Why nobody ever wins the car at the mall (2018)
#15I wonder how much money these scams net. Even if this outfit is fully owned and operated by a scuzzy timeshare company, do they really make enough money to justify the $1500/~=22 marks? The article only mentions people being contacted by the timeshare company, but I wonder if they might sell the info as a secondary revenue stream, especially given the waiver which claims to override federal do-not-call lists. How muc…
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#16How did timeshares become so deeply associated with slimy sales tactics?
I’m not sure, but here’s one more data point. I have some acquaintances in Vietnam who sell timeshares there. Their practices are equally shady.
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#17“I understand my permission herein overrides my listing on any state of(sic) federal do not call list and any prior listing on the do not call lists of the companies listed above.” That’s disturbing. There is no way that’s possibly legally binding? Surely there can’t be a loophole this ridiculous in the Do Not Call law?
I’m pretty sure filling out a form with your phone number and a granted permission with that wording does override dnc lists, but you can reverse it again when they call.
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#18People complain that Safari is a terrible web citizen. Here I go to this website, with Safari and my trusty ad blocker extension, and the page keeps reloading endlessly. Who’s to blame? The crappy website, Safari, or its extension?
Re: Why nobody ever wins the car at the mall (2018)
#19How did timeshares become so deeply associated with slimy sales tactics?
Because the fundamental economics of time shares are a scam. They are pitched as "ownership" but what they really are are perpetual rental contracts with no way out. (The rent is called "maintenance fees" but it doesn't matter what label you attach to it. It's a sum of money that you are obligated to pay year after year after year. If it quacks like rent...) And you even have to pay a hefty sum up front for the privilege of being obligated to rent a place once a year forever.
Re: Why nobody ever wins the car at the mall (2018)
#20“I understand my permission herein overrides my listing on any state of(sic) federal do not call list and any prior listing on the do not call lists of the companies listed above.” That’s disturbing. There is no way that’s possibly legally binding? Surely there can’t be a loophole this ridiculous in the Do Not Call law?
Whoopsie you said yes once upon a time, looks like you've irrevocably consented to any and all futures interactions!
If there is no way to decline after viewing the terms, then it is not legal. It would be considered a contract of adhesion.