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Pirate Library Mirror: Preserving 7TB of books (that are not in Libgen)

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Re: Pirate Library Mirror: Preserving 7TB of books (that are not in Libgen)

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I wonder if there are any search engines dedicated to indexing these kinds of libraries. I know there's a decent one just for scihub, but it would be awesome if I could do a Google-style search that returned the contents of books, magazines and journal articles instead of just websites.

books.google.com

Re: Pirate Library Mirror: Preserving 7TB of books (that are not in Libgen)

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What kind of fairness can there be in charging for stolen books? I believe in free access to education, but charging for these books they have no rights to is a whole other thing.

I don't quite agree. I mean, they provide useful service, and it costs money to run it. It's ok that they earn (even if it's actually making a profit, not just covering the costs). That being said, 10 downloads/day feels a bit restrictive to me. I'd get if it was 100, or 50, heck, maybe even 20. I mean, I don't appreciate that it's not mirrorable in the first place, but maybe they cannot afford it, I don't know... Bu…

You read more than 10 books per day?

Re: Pirate Library Mirror: Preserving 7TB of books (that are not in Libgen)

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No room for auto-correct?

Seems unlikely, as "wary" appears to be the more common word (71M Google results vs 55M). Maybe some keyboard mistakenly does it though.

Not sure why the count is relevant here. Both are valid words.

Re: Pirate Library Mirror: Preserving 7TB of books (that are not in Libgen)

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> For a text-only blog If somebody MITMs it, they can serve you anything they want.

> they can serve you anything they want. Great. More books! No really, I don't understand this argument. A static site served by plain http is perfectly appropriate. It's like a poster hanging on the wall for all to see. Of course people can paint over it, but it doesn't really matter.

HTTP connections can be used as a weapon against others. One example is China’s Great Cannon.

https://citizenlab.ca/2015/04/chinas-great-cannon/

Re: Pirate Library Mirror: Preserving 7TB of books (that are not in Libgen)

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I assume Google abandoned this along with all their earlier mission statements in favour of building another chat app.

Could you take a moment to check it Google Books search still exists? I'll give you a hint: https://books.google.com/?hl=en > Search the world's most comprehensive index of full-text books.

I know it exists, but it has appeared to languish for years. They rely on third parties now for inclusion of books, whereas in the early days they innovated on their own with specialized scanning technology. They seemed quite proud of it a decade ago. When was the last time Google has touted their books project? Have they even integrated searching books into their main search (which was supposed to catalogue And make searchable all the world’s information)?

It hasn’t been killed but it is clearly a zombie.

Re: Pirate Library Mirror: Preserving 7TB of books (that are not in Libgen)

#86

To be fair, Z-Library doesn't charge unless you want to download more than 10 books per 24 hour period. That's per account and although they ask you not to open multiple accounts they don't seem to do anything to stop you.

What kind of fairness can there be in charging for stolen books? I believe in free access to education, but charging for these books they have no rights to is a whole other thing.

>What kind of fairness...?

Well they are providing a great public service and their system takes money to maintain. It's just a small fee.

Re: Pirate Library Mirror: Preserving 7TB of books (that are not in Libgen)

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post #77

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I don't quite agree. I mean, they provide useful service, and it costs money to run it. It's ok that they earn (even if it's actually making a profit, not just covering the costs). That being said, 10 downloads/day feels a bit restrictive to me. I'd get if it was 100, or 50, heck, maybe even 20. I mean, I don't appreciate that it's not mirrorable in the first place, but maybe they cannot afford it, I don't know... Bu…

You read more than 10 books per day?

Read — no, I don't. Download to skim and see the contents — yes (even though I don't do it everyday, obviously). In fact, I rarely download less than 4 books at once, except for occasions when it's a new book of my favorite writer (in which case I can as well just buy it). Instead, there is some topic, some reason why I need these books, and I somehow can gather a dozen of recommendations, maybe more, then I need to actually get a look inside of them, to see what I'll be reading (if anything). It also happens that I kinda know the book, but not precisely enough, because some authors really like to milk the topic by publishing 5 books kinda the same as the first successful one, and if they are technical they can have 5 revisions each. I may not read them at all, or I may be reading them during the whole next year, but I'll need to get them all at once at first.

And if we also count papers, which this site provides too — easily.

Re: Pirate Library Mirror: Preserving 7TB of books (that are not in Libgen)

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Could you take a moment to check it Google Books search still exists? I'll give you a hint: https://books.google.com/?hl=en > Search the world's most comprehensive index of full-text books.

I know it exists, but it has appeared to languish for years. They rely on third parties now for inclusion of books, whereas in the early days they innovated on their own with specialized scanning technology. They seemed quite proud of it a decade ago. When was the last time Google has touted their books project? Have they even integrated searching books into their main search (which was supposed to catalogue And make…

It was paralyzed by legal disputes with book publishers.

In the years the lawsuits were going on, nearly everyone left the project. And then the lawyers have put in so many red lines that it's nearly impossible to make any changes to it.

Re: Pirate Library Mirror: Preserving 7TB of books (that are not in Libgen)

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To be fair, Z-Library doesn't charge unless you want to download more than 10 books per 24 hour period. That's per account and although they ask you not to open multiple accounts they don't seem to do anything to stop you.

What kind of fairness can there be in charging for stolen books? I believe in free access to education, but charging for these books they have no rights to is a whole other thing.

At this point is worth noting that there are reputable sources for free books, such as public libraries and Project Gutenberg.

I realize that neither source will satisfy many of the people on HN, simply because there is a need for current technical books.

Re: Pirate Library Mirror: Preserving 7TB of books (that are not in Libgen)

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What kind of fairness can there be in charging for stolen books? I believe in free access to education, but charging for these books they have no rights to is a whole other thing.

You don't have to pay them if you go steal them yourself. If you find it more convenient to pay another thief to do it for you then I don't think that's significantly less fair.

All those India/Malasya/Guatemala kids stealing a 200 USD PDE book from Pearson should go to jail... in America... Assange style
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