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How to fuck up an airport

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Re: How to fuck up an airport

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Best way: close the actual city airport that was functioning like a well-oiled machine and was loved by the city population. Even better, do it against their explicit wishes with a shady decision that reeks of corruption. Any follow-up to that will always end up being "fucked up".

Tegel was only well functioning for inner-EU flights. Every time I had to fly to Israel via either Tegel or Schönefeld it was a huge hassle that required going through some obviously-late-addition terminal somewhere far and inconvenient.

BER was also a shitshow but the old airports badly needed replacement. I’ve flown through BER 3 times so far and all of them went fine and much more convenient than the old ones (with the exception of inner EU trips which I anyway prefer to do via train instead when possible).

Re: How to fuck up an airport

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I have another method. Let everyone go during covid and then attempt to re-hire them all on less generous terms after the fact. Looking at you DUB (and no doubt many others).

Swiss airlines have the same issue. Pay is absolute garbage and some that have been there for 20 years are actually making less than they did back then. Many left and switched cariers during covid. It's an absolute shit show and if it keep going like this they will go bankrupt again. This time I hope we finally learn and have the government juat take it over or let it die off.

Re: How to fuck up an airport

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Easy: political corruption masquerading as incompetence and bad luck, since our leaders have absolutely zero accountability, so they have no incentive to actually do anything right and can instead represent the interests of various businesses and interest groups using your tax money, and once their political career is over, they can get on the payroll as execs or consultants by the same business they helped get rich…

Maybe technology, and a little behavioral modification, can help. For example, you can make an agreement with yourself: along with any online statement about endemic corruption, bad luck, lack of accountability, I will do something to reverse this trend I do not like. I will post the names of the politicians, businesses, consultants, responsible for a specific bad outcome. I think that would both strengthen your mess…

On a meta-level I'd also be very interested, how many people actually now about corruption of the smallest governing body where they live (and can name some members which got voted in). Given the fleeting lifestyle propagated here and by American laws (hey, there's another job, let's move), it's no wonder the government is captured by landed elites. It's the peoples job to change that and yes, settling down somewhere helps.

Re: How to fuck up an airport

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I have another method. Let everyone go during covid and then attempt to re-hire them all on less generous terms after the fact. Looking at you DUB (and no doubt many others).

Schiphol same thing...

People now have to wait for hours, hundreds of flights are cancelled daily and they still refuse to pay a reasonable wage. Of course the CEO blames everything on others and allots himself a big bonus as usual.

And society bailed out these guys in a big way during Corona... Next time we should just let them fall.

Re: How to fuck up an airport

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post #7

Best way: close the actual city airport that was functioning like a well-oiled machine and was loved by the city population. Even better, do it against their explicit wishes with a shady decision that reeks of corruption. Any follow-up to that will always end up being "fucked up".

> functioning like a well-oiled machine and was loved by the city population

You can’t possibly mean Tegel? I’ve never met anyone who has used Tegel who didn’t think it was clearly the worst airport in the world.

I used to literally avoid doing any business in Berlin because Tegel was so painful.

Re: How to fuck up an airport

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post #7

Best way: close the actual city airport that was functioning like a well-oiled machine and was loved by the city population. Even better, do it against their explicit wishes with a shady decision that reeks of corruption. Any follow-up to that will always end up being "fucked up".

> close the actual city airport that was functioning like a well-oiled

You mean which Berlin's airport? As Berlin-native for few years I used the Schönefeld numerous times... and the staff there was some mixture of rude primitive sadists. Behaving towards passengers as if they're taking revenge for something. I just want to fly out of here, you cunt.

Re: How to fuck up an airport

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Best way: close the actual city airport that was functioning like a well-oiled machine and was loved by the city population. Even better, do it against their explicit wishes with a shady decision that reeks of corruption. Any follow-up to that will always end up being "fucked up".

"functioning like a well-oiled machine" No, not really, no.

Actually the newer (low-cost) terminals worked better than the original one. No frills and less crowded.

The main terminal had an interesting design but it was slightly better than SXF (the one that had communist efficiency - take it as you will)

Re: How to fuck up an airport

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TLDR:

* All the public bids where too expensive. so the City decided to be it's own contractor, it must be cheaper.

* Keep changing plans, double the size .. after starting construction.

* Hire an architect that hates shops, change all plans again to add shops.

* Start paying contractors by time instead of by job, they start stealing.

* because of all the changes : stairs don't fit, cable management is broken, firesafety doesn't work.

* Don't fuck with german firesafety, they won't approve it, and you can't bribe them.

16 years later: opening with a capacity that is far below what's needed.

Re: How to fuck up an airport

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post #7

Best way: close the actual city airport that was functioning like a well-oiled machine and was loved by the city population. Even better, do it against their explicit wishes with a shady decision that reeks of corruption. Any follow-up to that will always end up being "fucked up".

I mean, sort of. The A gates which all had the separate security for each gate worked great. You could rock up 25 mins before your BA flight and just cruise right onto the plane. That stopped there though, did you ever fly from B or C? Tolerable enough if you're catching a commuter to Munich or something at 7am, but once it's filled with tourists it was appalling, far too small, far too crowded. Living in the west of…

I flew a lot from there, because I lived 10 minutes away from the airport (by bus).

I mostly flew from C (cheap EU flights), sometimes from A and D (Asia, UK). I don't recall ever flying from B.

I agree that A gates was a sweet spot but even C was great. The airport optimised for getting you out of there ASAP, both for departures and arrivals.

I usually managed to get from the plane to my living room within 30 minutes (just with a carry-on, naturally).

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